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Rights grab
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What is interesting is that as my intellectual-property lawyer (and sister-in-law) is happy to explain, you cannot in the UK wave rights which are granted to you by statute (Copy Designs & Patents Act 1988) nor can any such contract be held up to be in perpetuity. Looks like they need a new lawyer (if they used one)! I wonder if it will ever get tested in court?
I hasten to add that this appears to be about Dive Magazine, and NOT Diver Magazine. (There is often some confusion).
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The rights blurb is imposed on us by lawyers, but please don't be too quick to judge. As editor of DIVE, I am proud to say we regularly showcase new underwater photographers and pay for everything we use – more than other UK dive magazines, as it happens. As a magazine, the only photographs we do not pay for are promotional distributed images and pictures which are used to promote the photography competitions we organise ourselves, which I believe is common practise and fair enough.
We have a history of supporting up-and-coming photographers as well as publishing the work of established snappers, and there is no question of building up a 'free library'. I understand all the legalspeak can occasion a degree of paranoia, but here at DIVE we're just a bunch of people who love diving and simply want to publish the best stories and pictures in return for a fair payment. Every now and then a payment can be a while coming, but we truly look after our contributors and I am happy to stand on my record in this regard.
Simon Rogerson
Editor, DIVE magazine
London
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Your lawyers are stitching you up Simon. Take a look at this:
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880048_en_1.htm
You cannot waive your statutory rights in the UK anymore than I could give you permission to kill me and eat me, so that you could use it in a successful defence of a subsequent murder charge!
I have a long string of proven litigation successes with entities that were badly advised including Conde Naste, Express Newspapers, and even the BSAC. Jeremy Stafford-Deitsch will tell you that the most money he got for repro of a photo was after I advised him to go after a national newspaper for using it without a license - and a license cannot be given in perpetuity (not under English Law).
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Thanks for the advice, John. Should I ever consider indulging in a spot of cannibalism, I will at least be aware of the legal complexities.
SimonR
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I'm off again early in the morning but, cannibalism aside, what about meeting for a beer the week of 27th Nov.?
JB
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Sure, I'll be around. Name your day and mine's a Guinness.
SimonR
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I love these jovial exchanges...
Even though I'm 'law illiterate' at the moment..It's nice to see our cannabalistic buddies getting on over a pint of the black stuff.

Thanks for making a dullish friday night more enjoyable..

Dive safe
DeanB