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  1. Well, thanks to some quick inputs on a previous post, I am booked up for a trip on the Solmar V next month, but I also have an additional week to kill before I need to be in LA for Labor Day weekend.

     

    So my question is: What other places should I dive while I am out there?

     

    A few places I have thought about so far: Channel Islands, Catalina, Monterey Bay, San Diego

     

    I am not really all that familiar with diving in that area, so I don't even really know what the possibilities are. I would defiantly like to hit some kelp forests, but besides that I am open to suggestions. I plan on renting a car after getting back to San Diego, so I figure I can meander as far north as Monterey Bay. I have friends in both Laguna Beach and Santa Cruz, so they would be two stops I wouldn't mind making.

  2. catalina island is great for a day trip. North channel islands san miguel, anacapa, etc are great for mutiday and day trips . Check out truth aquatics web site for scedules. They are a great operation. Beware water is COLD!

  3. catalina island is great for a day trip. North channel islands san miguel, anacapa, etc are great for mutiday and day trips . Check out truth aquatics web site for scedules. They are a great operation. Beware water is COLD!

     

     

    Seconding the Truth boats. truthaquatics.com. They are based in Santa Barbara.

     

    Geography-wise you have:

     

    Northern CA (North of Santa Barbara) has some good shore diving, but I'm not familiar with the particulars, somebody else will no doubt chime in on that.

     

    As far as Southern CA, there are a few options:

     

    Channel Islands are made up of the "Northern" channel islands (Anacapa, Santa Cruz, Santa Rosa and San Miguel) - from closest in to farthest out. These can all be reached on day boats, but the swell can often interfere with getting all the way to Santa Rosa or San Miguel, so you have a medium chance of ending up at Santa Cruz Island (not to be confused with Santa Cruz city) instead. Santa Cruz island is pretty so-so IMO, I wouldn't head there as the intended destination. You can still find neat stuff though if you end up there because conditions are bad. Santa Rosa and San Miguel, of course, being the farthest away, are the best ones! Think pinnacles absolutely covered with invertibrate life. Strawberry anemones, yellow cup corals, nudis all over the place, rockfish, lingcod, lobsters, barnacles (surprisingly cute and photogenic). The Truth boats (TruthAquatics.com) and the Peace Boat (I think it's peacediveboat.com) are the most popular options for getting out there. The Truth boats are cushier by alot, but the Peace has a huge following. The trips to the "outer islands" (as they call them) usually board the night before and sleep on the boat, as they leave at 1am or 4am (depending on the destination). Sleeping arrangements are bunk room style, byo sleeping bag and earplugs.

     

    Anacapa is the easiest of the northern channel islands to get to, and there are a few boats that do easy and fun day trips out there. Most leave from Ventura Harbor. I like the Spectre the best, but that's my own personal opinion, there are plenty of boats from 6 packs on up. The Spectre goes pretty much every day, and typically does 4 dives at various spots on Anacapa. You can contact them at CalBoatDiving.com. At Anacapa you'll almost certainly get one dive that drops you over a shallow sandy patch where all you do is play with sea lions the whole dive. It's a blast. Anacapa has "typical" CA shallow diving - mostly shallower than 60'. There are a few pinnacles that the boats may take you to if the conditions are good. About half the dives tend to be in marine parks rich with kelp, garibaldis, sheephead, etc. Cathedral Cove, which they usually try to stop at every day, can be stunning, especially if you want to fiddle around in shallow water without (too much) surge trying to take pictures of kelp and nudis and sea lions.

     

    Southern Channel Islands include Catalina, Santa Barbara and San Clemente (as well as the remote areas like Cortes Banks). These are served by day boats out of Long Beach/San Pedro, Ventura sometimes (I think the Peace comes south?) and the Redondo Beach area. Catalina is also serviced by the ferry (catalinaflyer.com), but alot of people prefer to dive from boats, as the shore diving on Catalina is pretty much just Casino Point (the marine park, which is beautiful kelp forest diving). It's kind of a schlep with the gear unless you rent on the island, which I would recommend. Somebody can give you the name of the main dive shop there - ScubaLuv? Also have an island based boat. The boats reach some neat spots like Italian Gardens (known for giant sea bass), a couple of wrecks, etc. One dive that is kind of a highlight is Farnsworth Bank, which is a "destination" (the boat will advertise that as the destination for the day). It's a deep pinnacle (top is at about 70' ish IIRC), again covered with marine life, similar to the Northern Channel Islands.

     

    Santa Barbara Island is really neat because it has sea lion rookeries, so the boats make a point of diving with the sea lions. SBI is also the home of about 80gazillion brittle stars. I'm not sure this is the season (think it is), but at one dive site, the bottom is covered as far as the eye can see with brittle stars - it looks like really long yellow shag carpet until you get up close and shine your light on all the gillions and gillions of multicolored brittle stars. Has kelp. Also some dives with shallow sloping sandy bottom where you see some big Halibut. Lots of bat rays at SBI (as well as everywhere else). Also electric rays (Torpedo Rays), although they are everywhere as well.

     

    San Clemente Island is the farthest out and a big favorite because it has really nice topography, kelp forests and on days with really great viz, it can knock your booties off. Although I wouldn't know about that, because out of the 5 or so times I've been there, the viz has been standard CA viz - 20-40'. Those who love SC really love it though. Has nice kelp too.

     

    Logistics: All these boat trips assume you have all your own gear, including tanks and weights. If you don't, several of the boats will rent gear, or you can book with one of the local dive shops (who do charter trips), and rent gear from them. Let me know if you'd like some phone numbers of some local shops. All of the boats, except for boats to Catalina or Anacapa, board the night before and sleep on the boat on the way out. Start diving in the morning, typically get 3 dives, then motor back in all afternoon. Anacapa and Catalina are day trips - Anacapa is 1.5 hours each way by boat, and Catalina aobut 2.5, so those boats usually leave at 6 or 7 in the morning and get home in the evening. You can often sleep on these boats the night before as well, in the harbor, if you don't want to be driving around at 5am in the dark looking for a boat you've never been on before. For sleeping on the boats you'll want a sleeping bag, although most offer blankets and pillows.

     

    Oil Rigs. If you've never dove an oil rig, you should try to find a boat doing the rigs when you're out here. The Rigs out of San Pedro/Long Beach are really fun and can be really beautiful, depending on the viz, which varies. I've been with 5' viz and with 100'. Closer to 20-30ish is probably about average. Tons of inveribtrates encrusting the legs of the rigs, sea lions, and some more pelagic species including some stunning jellies often float by, although with your diving experience you've probably seen a ton of those before. The Oil Rigs trips can be harder to schedule, as the boats have to get special permission to go there and don't go that often, but if you get the opportunity, go! They're also only about a half hour from the harbor, so it's an easy day trip.

     

    Shore Diving. We also have pretty good shore diving, and clubs that go quite often (vetdivers?). Somebody will have to give you more specific information, but there are alot of people who love the shore diving here. I prefer boats, so I don't have too much information, but if you do go, try to get somebody to take you to "Old Marineland".

     

    I don't know much about San Diego area, except that there are plenty of charter boats you can get on (Lois Ann is one), and they do Wreck dives (really big good wrecks), Kelp dives, and trips that are a combo of the two. They also have plenty of really good shore diving, as your friend in Laguna will tell you (La Jolla shores, as well as spots in Laguna itself). And, it seems they currently have Humboldt Squid, if you're brave . . .

     

    If I were you, I'd structure my trip around a multi-day trip on one of the Truth boats out of Santa Barbara. If you went on a 3 day trip, you'd get a pretty good flavor for the socal diving experience, and the logistics are easy as they rent gear and that saves you hotel nights.

     

    Have fun!

    Susan

     

    Edited to add: Vazuw is right, expect water temperatures between 55 and 65. Most folks dive in 7mm full wetsuits with hoods, or else drysuits. Both can be rented locally. It's worth it though!

    Edited by Taxgeek
  4. Temps are currently between 50 and 60, for the most part.

     

    I'd look at the Truth fleet if it fits your schedule, else the Peace is one of the best-regarded local dive boats for the northern channel islands. Not as plush as the Truth fleet, however.

     

    For Catalina and the rest of the Southern Channel Islands, I'd look at the Magician and the Sea Bass as the best local boats. The Dive Park is also quite a good experience, for shore diving, if you want to take the ferry across the channel and spend the day (or a few days) in Avalon.

     

    San Diego has great shore diving (but go with a local) and great wreck diving. I'd choose the Marissa instead of the Lois Ann, unless you like cattle boats.

     

    Monterey offers fantastic (but COLD, probably mid to upper 40's?) kelp diving, but I can't offer much advice on that area.

     

    Note that SoCal does NOT usually provide in-water DM's. Certified divers are expected to manage their own skills, and navigate themselves back into the boat within the time allotted. DMs can be hired from local shops if you're not comfortable with this, however, and don't have a local buddy. I've provided this service on occasion, but it's not my usual gig.

     

    Edit: As to renting drysuits, there are a few places, but most require you to have a drysuit cert card before they'll rent to you, even if you've been diving dry for years.

    Edited by CompuDude
  5. Great summary tax geek!

  6. Great summary tax geek!

     

    It's friday afternoon, now all I can do is daydream about my favorite dive sites. Dangit! ;-)

  7. Have fun!

    Susan

     

    wow, did you just type all that in now????? impressive

  8. well, you already got lots of great advice.

     

    you probably want to focus on the channel islands, doing single or multi-day trips. book well in advance. visit san diego for wrecks.

     

    A beach dive at shaw's cove in laguna beach can also be nice if the surf is low.

     

    Catalina/san clemente/santa barbara (southern channel islands) will be slightly warmer than anacapa/santa cruz/san miguel (northern channel islands). labor day weekend is the warmest time of the year, you should be fine in a 7MM wetsuit.

     

    Santa barbara / anacapa can be great for sea lions. All of the channel islands will have nice kelp forests.

     

    FYI, the vast majority of single-day trips will go to catalina or anacapa, which are great places. A multi-day trip will be even better.

     

    Dive boat names include truth aquatics, spectre, peace, magician, sundiver, great escape, horizon. start googling, calling and researching! :B):

     

    enjoy,

    Scott

    Edited by sgietler
  9. Not to rain on your parade, but I wanted to show my children the delights of underwater Catalina, then had so little support from the Californian end that we're going to the Cayman Islands instead...

     

    Tim

     

    :B):

  10. My vote for the best So Cal diving is Eurica one of the oil rigs off long beach. It's just a day trip so you'll have time to go to the islands on other days.

    This is a good 6-pac boat I would recommend. http://www.secondstage.net/index.htm

     

    Todd

  11. Here's another resource for anybody wanting to plan CA dive boat trips:

     

    www.cadivingnews.com (California Diving News) is a publication that is put out monthly about boat diving in SoCal.

    This weekend I saw a calendar of dive trips in it, and noticed they have a webpage.

    On the banner page they just give a few trips, but you can find the complete calendar at:

     

    Full Calendar

     

    Might be handy for out-of-towners. It lists the boats, contact info, and the charterers, with contact info, and also looks like they have descriptions of the various dive areas. Actually, on closer look, these look to be descriptions of actual dive sites, which won't be that useful except to get a general idea what to expect. Farnsworth is the only dive site (pretty much) where the destination for the day is a particular dive site; otherwise the destination is usually an island.

     

    It looks like most of the boats, but not all (i.e. I don't see the Great Escape) submit their schedules.

     

    Hope that helps.

    Susan

  12. My vote for the best So Cal diving is Eurica one of the oil rigs off long beach. It's just a day trip so you'll have time to go to the islands on other days.

    This is a good 6-pac boat I would recommend. http://www.secondstage.net/index.htm

     

    Todd

     

    The oil rigs are a great destination. here's an article I did on them for more info:

    http://www.divemagazine.co.uk/news/article.asp?uan=5125

     

    Susan, I think you might have to be a California diving news advertiser to be able to submit your boat schedule...

     

    Scott

  13. Susan, I think you might have to be a California diving news advertiser to be able to submit your boat schedule...

     

    Scott

     

     

    Yes, I suspect you're probably right about that. Most of the popular boats advertise in there though (at least in my area), so not too many are excluded.

    Nice article - that sounds like a spectacular day. I've only had the fortune to experience one 100' viz day, but it was beautiful! (one other time the viz was 5' so the boat detoured to Catalina, and the other couple times it was about 30').

  14. Thanks for all the great inputs. I was able to slip onto a 4-day trip to San Clemente aboard the Vision.

     

    Has anyone been on the Vision before? How are they setup to handle photographers (i.e. charging stations, work areas, rinse tanks)?

     

    The website says they provide blankets and pillows, but what about towels? As this seems to be a bit of a bare-bones trip as compared to what I am used to, it there anything else I should consider taking along that I normally might leave behind to lighten my load?

  15. is there anything else I should consider taking along that I normally might leave behind to lighten my load?

     

    A dive guide

  16. Vision is a great boat, designed just for diving. Spacious deck, large swim platform that extends just below the surface (no ladders). As a photographer you should have all you need. Tables in the saloon are used as camera tables, but also for meals. So you may be requested to move gear around a bit at meal time. Electrical outlets & rinse tank. Crew is used to lots of photo gear on some trips, so no problem there. Take towels. Take alcoholic beverages if you indulge (which you can buy a few blocks up the street). The boat has no wine or beer - nothing alcoholic. Rent tanks & weights at dive shop at head of dock. I just take the usual stuff like for other local trips. You will probably dive multiple islands on a 4-day. Water was 69 deg 2 wks ago. As you said, basic boat compared to tropical liveaboards, but the crew takes very good care of you.

    Edited by jcclink
  17. Thanks for all the great inputs. I was able to slip onto a 4-day trip to San Clemente aboard the Vision.

     

    Has anyone been on the Vision before? How are they setup to handle photographers (i.e. charging stations, work areas, rinse tanks)?

     

    The website says they provide blankets and pillows, but what about towels? As this seems to be a bit of a bare-bones trip as compared to what I am used to, it there anything else I should consider taking along that I normally might leave behind to lighten my load?

     

     

    Great! The Vision is a great boat. It is a virtual twin to the Conception, so any info you find about the Conception will generally apply, although the Conception has been refurbished.

     

    Re photography: The CA boats aren't set up too well for them. If you're shooting DSLR, you should bring a cooler (that's what I use) or BIG pelican or big rubbermaid tub to be the home for your camera when you're not using it. There are outlets in various places around the boat, but no dedicated camera table/charging station, IIRC. Bring an extension cord with a multiplier plug on the end for that. They'll have a rinse tank, so don't worry about that, and the CA divers are *pretty* good about not getting mask defogger in the camera rinse bucket. I would bring a dedicated camera towel. You'll end up storing your cooler/rubbermaid tub either under the benches in the galley or along the railing outside, and you can just pull your camera out of the rinse bucket and plop it in there until you're ready to work on it, which you'll do on the dining tables.

     

    Blankets and pillows are pretty much all they provide. Most people bring a sleeping bag and a pillowcase. You'll need to bring your own towel, but at least this boat has a dryer so you can dry your towel at the end of the day. (not 100% sure on the dryer, but the other two Truth boats have them). This will definitely be bare bones compared to liveaboards - think of this like a day boat that happens to have bunks for you to sleep in. I'll PM you my packing list, to give you an idea what I take.

     

    As Scott mentions, there are no dive guides. The DMs don't get in the water here unless they have to jump in to save somebody. The way the diving works is the captain gives a short briefing about the dive site (i.e., depth of anchor, depth under boat, what depth and where the good stuff is - go down the anchor line and hang a left or a right, typically) and everybody just jumps in and does their own thing. If you really want a dive guide, I know several people who would *probably* go as your guide for free if you paid their way onto the boat! ;-)

     

    If you're by yourself, the general procedure is to ask around when you get on the boat or first thing in the morning about getting a buddy; there's usually somebody you can pair up with. The DMs aren't too militaristic about forcing you to use a buddy or stay near your buddy or anything like that. They don't check your air or max depth when you get back on the boat either. So just expect it to be like that and you'll be good - it gives you the opportunity to be very independent if you understand that they trust you not to screw up. I've never been prevented from diving solo, but I use a pony and have dove here alot. A couple of times the DM wanted me to jump in with other divers, for the sake of appearances, but then didn't care if I came up without them.

     

    Argh, jcclink just posted while I was typing. That's what I get for being longwinded. He's 100% right.

     

    The Vision will probably let you do night dives if you want too.

     

    One random thing that is often missing on these boats is coathangers to hang up your wetsuit. I think Vision has them, but if you have access, bring a couple.

  18. Ill be on the conception/ limited load trip to san clemente about the same time. Ill wave to you :drink:

  19. Something I forgot to mention - Vision has an aft compact below deck for hanging up wet/dry suits. (Clothes dryer is also down there.) And its heated, so suits are nice & comfy the next morning. Hangers usually available but best to bring your own. Its Calif buddy diving out here - jump in with someone, then split. If there is only a bow anchor (sometimes they also drop a stern hook) & you have to follow it down, there's a bow exit right next to it. Do you get nose bleed easily? Have a great trip.

    Edited by jcclink
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