YouTube now supports 1080p60 and 720p60

Apparently YouTube started 60p support late October. However, not all browsers are able to show the 1080p60 and 720p60 options yet. The browsers I have that can display 60p options are:

Mac:
Chrome - OS 10.6.8 and newer
FireFox - no luck
Safari - Yosemite yes, Maverick no


PC - I only have Windows 8.1 at the moment:
Chrome - Windows 8.1 and highly likely Windows 7 also
FireFox - no luck under Windows 8.1
IE - Windows 8.1 and highly likely Windows 7 also

Still, the most reliable way to show 60p movies online is to embed the mp4 files on your own web pages - no issue with all major browsers except Mac version of FireFox.

YouTube may also support 48p, but I’ve not come across one example yet. Perhaps the next Hobbit trailer since the movie was shot in 48p. 2.7K 48p will do until 4K 60p and 48p become affordable.

Yesterday I uploaded a video that I had originally shot at 50p on YouTube. The results were shockingly bad. The same clip in the 25p version looks much better. Possibly youtube is using a sleazy compression to ensure device compatibility and together with low bitrate this means bad news. The same clips when I play them locally are almost identical and definitely the 25p version is not better. Will try and upload another one with even higher quality but looks like this is a no go

Two clips in question

Wrecks of Barbados 50p version

Wrecks of Barbados 25p version (from same source file 50p)

No problem playing YouTube 1080p60 videos on a quad-core i7 iMac27:

OSX Yosemite: Safari plays 1080p60 smoothly without problem; however, Chrome stutters.

Windows 8.1: IE plays 1080p60 smoothly without problem, however, Chrome stutters badly.

Chrome plays the YouTube 1080p30 versions just fine under OSX and Windows 8.1.

Comparing to the source files I uploaded, YouTube 1080p60 videos are only a little softer, but difficult to noticed playing at 60fps.

I don't have a problem playing is just that there is no real improvement however this may as well have to do with the fact that the codec implementation in AVCHD is rather poor on 50/60p

At home the same compressed file look marginally better at 50p but not really so much

Let's use this thread to disseminate useful information on how to upload and view 60p videos on YouTube. I get it - Interceptor121 doesn't like AVCHD - fine, please don't turn this into a AVCHD bashing oppertunity over and over again!

What bashing? I use AVCHD myself. From what I can see there is nothing specific about uploading youtube reconverts everything to a file without B frames pretty much the same it does with any clip. However with double frame rate seems to make it slightly worse. In my case the source clip didn't have frames so looks similarish. I have looked separately at encoding and I really think that except specific scenes with lots of movement or slow motion at same bitrate is not worth it

Back on topic!

Apparently Google Chrome is having trouble playing YouTube 60p videos smoothly. Disabling "Hardware Acceleration" under the 'Advanced options' tab works for some but not all. On my iMac, 60p turns into 30p.

I know Safari under OSX Yosemite and IE under Windows 8.1 definitely work.

A person suggested that FireFox under Win7 could play YouTube 720p60 videos, anyone has success playing 1080p60 with FireFox?

Don't forget to check if Youtube is using Flash player or HTML5 player when you test it. I know HTML5 player had its limitation, especially different browser handle HTML5 video differently.

Safari on Yosemite works fine it also gives you a variable speed option that is pretty good. No idea if it's flash or hyml5 probably the second as apple don't like flash but may be wrong

Good news and bad news on the browsers front:

The good news: Finally, Mac version of FireFox now supports HTML5 video so all four major browsers - Safari, IE, Chrome, FireFox - can play 60p MP4 videos directly from a web page without Flash and without going the YouTube route since FireFox still cannot play YouTube 60p videos yet.

The bad news: FireFox turns out still cannot access YouTube 60p videos, but that's less important now.

FireFox beta v38 under Win8.1 can play YouTube 1080p60. The current v.35 cannot display the 60p options. Hopefully, v38 will be released soon.

To those who are dissatified with YouTube and Vimeo compression standards, why not stream the HTML5 MP4 videos directly from your own web pages? This way one has full control of the compression settings.

To those who are dissatified with YouTube and Vimeo compression standards, why not stream the HTML5 MP4 videos directly from your own web pages? This way one has full control of the compression settings.

It's more that just putting the mp4 in your web hosting site and let people access it. I used to do that but at the end of the day, a "Media Server" is more appropriate to provide better user experience. When I had my video on my personal website, my family from Asia couldn't access it because their internet can not keep up to download the file. A media server take care of that by buffering, feeding the right bitrate etc.

I work as a Flash programmer and we looked into this kind of stuff for our training department. Putting the file on your website require the user to download the whole file before they can scrub, forward, rewind. The Media Server let user "Stream" to any point at the video and re-buffer and play from that point.

Another issue is bandwidth. Many hosting companies only allow a few gigabyte of traffic per day, otherwise they will charge you more to treat you like a commercial entity, or they just block the traffic once it becomes too heavy. I don't suppose people want to have have T1/Google Fiber and run a web server under their desk either.

In this case we're at the mercy of Youtube/Vimeo for the sake convenient, because who want to deal with the UI and experience of people who stream video from their tablet or phone?

I don't use Flash on my web site and I don't seem to have problem streaming MP4 videos directly from my own web pages. The videos play fine with IE, Safari, FireFox (Mac & Windows), and Chrome (Mac & Windows), and Android and Iphones too - I check regularly.

I can scrub all of my videos without waiting for the entire file to be downloaded. I cannot imagine a web hosting service nowadays not providing video streaming capabilities!

There are several way to structure a file so that streaming is facilitated. You can alter the structure so that the client plays it downloading small chunks or using a streaming server. If you don't optimise the file you will need to download it all which is what happens with certain ancient codecs. H264 is ideal for this purpose if you were using an AVI container and other you had to download the whole thing