New Panasonic S1 & S1R FF Camera for Videography?

In the end mirrorless is the future!

Competition is good. Exciting time ahead!!!

Usually this is the best source for news and video oriented musings:

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/20508/panasonic-s1-ff-camera-copy-of-nikon-z6

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/20509/panasonic-s1r-ff-camera-copy-of-nikon-z7

PS

IMHO for UW use M43 is a better format

Link to Panasonic presentation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuxXBRLaqyw

Seems like the S1 is a GH5 in a full frame?

Again a new mount announced in few weeks?!?

Canon => RF mount

Nikon => Z mount

Panasonic => L mount

That's all? Or Olympus will come soon with something ?

Frankly this is a mess, we'll have to be stuck with on brand.

or just keep buying EF mount that should be compatible with the three new comers.

Impossible to say just yet, interesting tho! But I think the current options we have ie gh5 and canon 1dx m2 etc are plenty sufficient, at least for underwater use.

Eventually somebody will make an adapter convert Canon lens to L-mount so as long as the camera body is popular and in demand, it shouldn't be a problem.

Eventually somebody will make an adapter convert Canon lens to L-mount so as long as the camera body is popular and in demand, it shouldn't be a problem.

Sigma said they're making one - https://www.dpreview.com/news/4798649806/sigma-to-take-foveon-full-frame-and-move-to-l-mount

Again a new mount announced in few weeks?!?

Canon => RF mount

Nikon => Z mount

Panasonic => L mount

That's all? Or Olympus will come soon with something ?

 

Frankly this is a mess, we'll have to be stuck with on brand.

or just keep buying EF mount that should be compatible with the three new comers.

All of them are strong competitor and all of their mounts are patented hence you have to pay licenses to use it. So "owning" your mount is a savvy decision.

Panasonic owns Leica. full-frame Leica SL and APS-C Leica CL and TL-series cameras use L mount already so it makes sense using it.

Canon and Nikon had to introduce a minimum set of lenses along with their new mirrorless cameras. Panasonic will adopt the same strategy but it can already use the 10 Leica lens already available. Moreover, with the Sigma alliance will have affordable lens asap: Sigma needs "simply" adapt their existing lens to the new mount.

Ok anyway no hurry to go with any new “system” as only few lenses will be available for a while from any camera maker.

Also no one have yet announced anything better than the GH5/S can deliver in term of codec, apart from Fuji with their XT-3 and Blackmagic with their BMPCC 4K.

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There is just a bit of confusion in term of the camera line up roadmap. The Panasonic S1 and S1R is 4K60fps. But isn't Panasonic has the goal to create 8K camera by 2020 Summer Olympics in Japan? If they release S1 and S1R in 2019, would a 8K camera release in 2020? That seems to be too close in term of flagship camera roadmap. I don't think 3/4 sensor is capable of doing 8K, so I don't think they will put 8K on GH6. I'm just surprise the S1 and S1R doesn't do 8K as it could give RED for a run of competition.

Only the SR1 could deliver 8K but did Panasonic said 8K on mirrorless camera?

I think that's only for camera like the EVA or higher models.

Also for 8K what media is needed? should need a very high speed, especially if you want 10bits.

I think that's not tomorrow you'll see 8K on mirrorless camera.

Cameras seen at Photokina are just (ugly) 3D printed mockups.

IMHO it was move trying to stop/pause people from jumping on the Canikon bandwagon: a way to say "I'm here too".

I'm under the impression that specs will change a lot before we will see a real SR1 on the block.

I think full frame is going to bring many people back to some challenges

Huge domes for rectilinear lenses, depth of field issues and the likes for video

I think it will be great for still but for video the 2x crop and the small lenses of mft are better

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So Pana S1 is on the market and it's plenty of test and review out there. Any rumors on future Nauticam housing for this little monster?

A friend of mine who is a long GH user (land shot) grabbed one S1 and he is impressed form the results.
Right now the problem for uw use are lenses but I saw a Sigma roadmap very interesting. Basically Sigma will adap a lot of its prime lenses to SL mount (a good news for Leica users too...)



No zoom ATM.

Two samples from my Friend:

Night test at ISO 3200 and 6400

https://youtu.be/piuNliA9NQI

Sorrento and Amalfi coast

https://youtu.be/tGLJQocpz0I

There is just a bit of confusion in term of the camera line up roadmap. The Panasonic S1 and S1R is 4K60fps. But isn't Panasonic has the goal to create 8K camera by 2020 Summer Olympics in Japan? If they release S1 and S1R in 2019, would a 8K camera release in 2020? That seems to be too close in term of flagship camera roadmap. I don't think 3/4 sensor is capable of doing 8K, so I don't think they will put 8K on GH6. I'm just surprise the S1 and S1R doesn't do 8K as it could give RED for a run of competition.

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Yep, Sharp showed a 8K m43 camera prototype at NAB

https://youtu.be/2QCcyKx742k