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Canon Rebel vs Nikon D70

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Canon Rebel vs Nikon D70

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  1. Canon Rebel vs Nikon D70

    I currently have a Oly C4040 housed in a Pt-10 housing and a ys-90 dx strobe. I like the camera very much. I don't have a back up camera but I am seeing a trend moving toward the DSLR as the prices keep coming down. My local camera dealer will give me a discount so my question is this, are they both basically the same except paying for the Nikon name or is one camera far better than the other. I'm just curious seeing how the Canon is less expensive. If I do get one of these I won't be housing it for awhile-I'm still in sticker shock at the housing cost!! But either camera and lens kit I can get. Is there a preference to all black or black and silver?

     

    Thanks,

    Wendy

  2. From what I've read, the D70 has a considerably more capable autofocus system, than the rebel. This is of huge importance, underwater, where light gets dim, and contrast low.

  3. Although I do not have either camera you are asking about, I do shoot a Nikon based body with Nikon glass.

     

    I will warn you, asking which is better, Nikon or Canon, is a lot like asking about a Mac or PC computer. Wars have started for less!

     

    Nikon users will normally rave about the Nikon, and Canon users will rave about the Canon.

     

    The best you can do, imho, is listen to both sides and see what you like best about the features of the cameras being compared.

     

    There is one technical difference on the D70 that comes to mind, a fully electronic shutter. This allows the Nikon to have a higher strobe "sync rate" than just about any camera out there, 1/500, You can fool the camera into thinking there is no strobe attached, and it will sync at speeds in excess of 1/1000.

     

    Let the product wars begin!! :D

  4. Thats exactly right lets start the war, could also be quite informative! :wink:

    Anyway I use the D100 and I'm veery happy with it, have no idea about Canon though.

    Who needs to have if you have a Nikon 8)

     

    But Wendy, on your place I would compare the data sheets of the Cameras, and go or ask from there. What is how important to you and for U/W Photography!?!

    Then the step from the Conumer Camera like the Oly 4040 with PT 010 to a DSLR is pricewise definitely quite a big step!

    There is teh body, Ok almost the same as a Oly, But you need lenses, a housing wich is a bit more expensive that a PT010, ports, Flashes, and and and...

     

    I don't want to scare you off, but make a proper calculation first and the welcome to the wannabe big guys :D

     

    cheers

    thomhard :idea:

  5. Thanks for all of the information. I know the jump from the 4040 to a DSLR is a huge jump but when I compare the upgrade to lets say the Oly 8080 why not spend a few extra bucks and get a better camera one that I can grow with and enjoy a long time (yes they do change alot) it is just a thought I have had as I consider a second camera. I don't mean to start a Canon vs Nikon war but I was just wondering about the performance value between the two. And you are correct in the apple/pc comparison-we all have our loyal brands. I hope, ,those you you who have had experience with either one could share your "unbiased" opinion.

     

    Thanks,

    Wendyd

  6. Both are excellent cameras and I'm sure you would be happy with either.

     

    Remeber though, that currently, the Nikon is the only one for which a 12-24 mm lens and a 10.5 mm fish-eye lens is available. Both these lenses are extremely useful underwater.

     

    Canon do have a wide-zoom on the way though. I guess it depends on whether you see yourself getting many lenses in the future, or just sticking with the "kit" lens. There are some third party lens solutions for the Canon camera too if you need them.

     

    For another comparison between the D70 and the Rebel, you might find http://www.bythom.com/D70REVIEW.HTM useful. He also reviews the Rebel http://www.bythom.com/300D.htm.

     

    Good luck with your decision.

  7. I have a Canon 10D and Nikon D100. I was a Canon guy, but I got into Nikon, too, because of the housing and lens and port choices. At the time I got the D100, Canon did not have the 10-22mm wide angle zoom, whereas Nikon had the 12-24, and the 70-180 macro zoom, which I've enjoyed greatly. Camera-wise and lens-wise, they are both great systems. At any given point in time, one may have the edge in one area or another, but it doesn't usually last long. I would have houses my Canon 10D if there had been good housing choices at the time, and a goodwide-zoom. Both are available today. Meanwhile, I have a foot in each camp ... an expensive and often-redundant position! A DSLR system will cost you lots more ... lenses and ports alone. If you decide, my advice is don't wait too long to get a housing. Digital cameras and their housings are coming and going more quickly than ever. You don't want to be orphaned.

  8. Wendy, Rich is waaay correct. This is often like Mac vs. Windows. Most decide their digital direction based on their current equipment investment; this obviously doesn’t apply to you!

     

    Anyone can make a line-by-line assessment, and trumpet that “their” brand is better. My unsolicited, formerly professional opinion, is that for your level of photography, and the cameras you’re considering, the choice is a wash. Canon, Nikon, you’ll be happy; either way you’ll feel that you got your money’s worth.

     

    That was the short version. Here’s the long-winded explanation:

     

    Nikon makes great glass (lenses); Canon makes great glass. The bodies are both well built and the feature sets are pretty similar. Performance is pretty similar, too. I know some will jump on this last statement, but it’s true. Both have strengths and weaknesses, and usually the performance difference is miniscule.

     

    My prior paycheck came from a newspaper. Out of all of us (8 shooters), only one gal shot with Canon. Here’s my take on watching her cameras perform:

    Our Nikons took a beating. Her Canons took a beating.

    Our Nikkor glass was tack sharp. And expensive. Her Canon glass was tack sharp, and just as expensive.

    The reliability of my Nikons was (and is) astonishing. Her Canons failed just as often, which is to say hardly ever.

    NPS made sure I always had a camera. So did Canon.

    Nikon parts and techs are everywhere. Canon parts and techs are a blight on the landscape.

     

    What’s often lost is that digital cameras have a pretty short lifespan. Just look at how long ago the Rebel was a “new” camera…a year ago? One reason they are less expensive is they are further into their “life cycle” than the D70. This has nothing to do with its quality, just that there will be a new model coming down the road soon. For me, I assume digital cameras I buy will have a “lifespan” (before they are well outdated) of about 2 years.

     

    This is not to say your new camera will up and die in 2 years; actually, one reason I said in the beginning that you’ll be happy (either way) is because both brands have made extensive efforts to standardize their equipment. This means you will be able to buy lenses (and parts) for your DSLR body far into the future.

     

    There are many excellent reasons to pick a brand. Housing availability, TTL compatibility with strobes, etc. Price. My personal recommendation is to “work backwards”, i.e. pick the lens first, then the body; fit the port to the lens, and the housing comes along with the port.

     

    Or perhaps you can get a screaming deal on a housing. Buy the camera to fit. These are all better reasons to choose a DSLR than simply what name is on the prism.

     

    As you can tell, I shoot Nikon. As much yeoman service as I’ve had from them, though, I cannot in good conscience steer you to one or the other!

     

    All the best, James

  9. Hey thank you so much for the useful information. I started out Canon,(old AE-1) my dad was a professional photographer and had all Canon, Leica and Roliflex gear. He had the EOS-something (film) but after he passed away my brother took his cameras and lenses so you could say my familiarity is with Canon but I don't have a preference, they both have great reputations for a quality product. Going with that, and all of the many extra goodies I would eventually need to invest in maybe should I look at the Oly 8080? My thought for now is to use the DSLR for topside until I could afford the housing and lenses.

     

    Thanks again for your time and input.

    Wendy

  10. Oh BTW, I just found out that our Sports Information office bought the Nikon D70 last week. I'll see if I can get my hands on it. There I go!!

  11. Hi,

     

    Nikon has longer product cycles - meaning you won't have to "upgrade" to the latest and greatest as often. This is a good thing when underwater housings cost 3 times as much as the camera. Nikon is an engineering driven company whereas Canon is much more marketting and consumer driven. What that means: Nikon will give you what they think you want (and usually get it right) whereas Canon will try to guess what you will be wanting in 6 months and develop a camera to fit that niche.

     

    These are just some generalizations and opinions based on my experience FWIW.

    Cheers

    James

  12. First and foremost recognize that both cameras are good choices and they both have their respective advantages/disadvantages. You really can't go wrong either way. I would try to stay with either Nikon or Canon though as Pentax/olympus/sigma bodies don't have as much support.

     

    Second recognize that you are buying a SYSTEM not a camera. You should pick one and commit to it because the cost difference between the two bodies is not great and really very small as a percentage of the overall cost when you factor in lenses and housings. Buy the system you think has the most to offer. Canon in general has more options on the telephoto end and Nikon has more on the wide end. Canon's new 10-22 mm lens will be a big step in that direction once they become available but you can't use it on the 10d (unless you think optics and hacksaws mix).

     

    Now you should also know that the D70 is placed feature and cost-wise roughly halfway between the Canon digital rebel and the Canon 10/20d. So it costs more but you get more in terms of features. If you step up to the 20d you get still more price and features.

     

    Both cameras have lots of housing options. If you go with Ikelite you can get the Drebel housing with TTL. This housing also makes up for one of the drebel's shortcommings FEC. Soon you may get the D70 housing upgraded to TTL when its available.

     

    I like the D70 because of the Nikon wide angle options and the feel of the camera is better. I also like having two control dials (one for aperture and one for shutter speed). The flash system is better, the speed is better, and you have more options of shutter speeds.

  13. The biggest difference between choosing film cameras and DSLR's is that in the case of the DSLR, you are choosing the "flim" you are going to use also. Here, Canon has a clear advantage with their own CMOS sensor process. Have a look here at the most recent reviews on image quality and noise:

     

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos20d/page25.asp

     

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS20.../lumi_graph.gif

     

    The Canon sensors has more than one stop advantage over the D70. Looking ahead, it's not clear what Nikon's image sensor strategy is. They seem to have abandon their own sensor efforts in favor of going with Sony. It's unclear how high making a sensor that meets or exceeds Canon's sensors is on Sony's priority list.

  14. Rebel may have a better sensor than the D70, but my eyes have been able to detect a difference large enough to make up for the fact that I don't like the design of the Rebel Camera.

     

    Having handled both, and played with features on both, I find the D70 superior in every way.

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