I have used the search engine but I haven´t found any UW experience with it. I would like to know what do you think of it before getting it and what port you use with it (I checked subal, seacam and aquatica websites and only subal recommends diopters (+2) with it). Does it give good corner sharpness?
Thank you!
I'm using the lens in a Nexus housing with the custom 12-24 port (190mm diameter) & +4 diopter. Sharp edges. Great general purpose lens when you don't know what you might find on a dive.
I agree - the 17-55 is an expensive piece of glass, but it's very quick, very sharp and the quality of the image is exceptional.
It's a great general purpose lens to go in with with you have no previous experience of the actual site.
I am very happy with mine both above and below the water.
Don
I use it with my Subal. Great lens above and below water, very sharp corners, great colors.
Traded in the 17-35 for it and have played with in my new D200/Aquatica setup. 10mm and 17-35mm extensions, 9" dome port and no diopters. It is fast, quite and has nice range. Viz has not been great but here are a couple taken with it. Taking it to Cocos this week we will see how it does vs the 12-24!
Hi David,
Maybe i'm cursing in the church but why not buy something like a Sigma 18-50 f/2,8 EX DC for about 380 euro instead of this 1200+ euro piece of glass which you'll finally put behind a piece of plastic (with a diopter which isn't improving either)? The sigma has a slightly narrower zoom range and the quality will be somewhat less, i'm sure, but ok, the Nikon also won't perform UW as good as topside. The sigma also has a closest focus range of 28 cm so probaly you won't need a diopter with it (closest focus for this Nikon = 36 cm). I would check what else is availlable before i'd go for this incredible expensive Nikon lens. Unless money doesn't matter.
cheers, Udo
Ok, here are some recent shots with the 17-55, all at 17:
In this gallery the Orca shots and the close reef shots were made with the 17-55. Using a +2 diopter and the 9" dome port.
Maybe i'm cursing in the church but why not buy something like a Sigma 18-50 f/2,8 EX DC for about 380 euro instead of this 1200+ euro piece of glass which you'll finally put behind a piece of plastic (with a diopter which isn't improving either)? The sigma has a slightly narrower zoom range and the quality will be somewhat less, i'm sure, but ok, the Nikon also won't perform UW as good as topside. The sigma also has a closest focus range of 28 cm so probaly you won't need a diopter with it (closest focus for this Nikon = 36 cm). I would check what else is availlable before i'd go for this incredible expensive Nikon lens. Unless money doesn't matter.
cheers, Udo
Built quality? Even my 2700 euro Sigma 300 f2.8 is falling apart. It needs a repair right now. I will never ever spend money on a Sigma lens.
I don't use a diopter on my 12-24 lens. Images are very very sharp in combination with my Seacam superdome. That's not plastic, but an optically coated glass port.
But I have to agree Sigma lenses are optically (very) good. But not built as a Nikon. You could better check if the 17-55 is really that much better than a 18-70 kitlens. I have seen test results that dont show why Nikon can ask so much money for their 17-55 prime compared to Nikons own cheaper alternatives.
I used the 17-55 exclusively on my Guadalupe trip with no diopter. It saved the day because they rarely got in close.
This outfit is just sooooo wrong.... i hope its you Luiz.... pink fins and snorkel really set off your eyes....
Nothing like a macho camo wetsuit to contrast with pink fins. Its the kind of statement that says, "I'm a man and I'm ok with my sexuality"
Nothing like a macho camo wetsuit to contrast with pink fins. Its the kind of statement that says, "I'm a man and I'm ok with my sexuality"
I don't know, it might just say I'm a man who refuses to pay retail for fins (one reason my cuz Tammy dives them!).
This outfit is just sooooo wrong.... i hope its you Luiz.... pink fins and snorkel really set off your eyes....
I didn't see the replies for this until now... No, that's not me, I was behind the camera, and yes, we made a lot of fun of him for having the camo suit with the pink fins, hehehehe!
I don't know, it might just say I'm a man who refuses to pay retail for fins (one reason my cuz Tammy dives them!).
Oh, and by the way, that's the explanation he gave us He said the dive shop he dealt with had tons of those (nobody wanted large pink fins, wonder why) so they sold them at 1/4 the retail price... I didn't buy that explanation for a minute though...
Besides the pink fins, I really like the 'normal' perspective that this lens range seems to provide. We have become quite used to the very wide perspectives, and the short tele (60-105) perspectives, and this looks more like what we are used to seeing through a normal camera lens.
Besides the pink fins, I really like the 'normal' perspective that this lens range seems to provide. We have become quite used to the very wide perspectives, and the short tele (60-105) perspectives, and this looks more like what we are used to seeing through a normal camera lens.
Hello All
Help: dumb question but I am a virgin: what is a diopter??
I am looking to get a D200 with an Aquatica housing and the 17-55 plus the SB800 flash with underwater housing (so I can use my flash above and below the water). Does this system make sense??
A diopter is a piece of glass that fits in front of a lens to shorten its minimum focusing distance. This is required for some lenses when used in combination with dome ports as the lens then has to focus on a virtual image generated by the dome relatively close to the lens.
As for your setup, it's workable, but the range of subjects you'll be able to shoot will be limited to "medium size" subjects. For macro or very large subjects, you'll need other lenses and ports, and possibly another strobe.
A diopter is a piece of glass that fits in front of a lens to shorten its minimum focusing distance. This is required for some lenses when used in combination with dome ports as the lens then has to focus on a virtual image generated by the dome relatively close to the lens.
As for your setup, it's workable, but the range of subjects you'll be able to shoot will be limited to "medium size" subjects. For macro or very large subjects, you'll need other lenses and ports, and possibly another strobe.
Thanks Matt!
Here is the dilema: the whole cash outlay is huge so I am trying to get a lens that will cover a variety of situations. Plus you can't change lenses UW so you have one shot to bring the right one. Again I figure this will cover a lot. I have read a bit and realize that while two strobes is ideal, many people get away with 1; particulary if I will not be doing macro. Agree?
Plus as all this will be new to me, I didn't want to complicate things too much.
While we are chattng, do you have any thoughts on housings? I am thinking of Aquatica, is it good value for the money or am I better off with something else?
Thanks!!
I'll chime in for Aquatica. This is my second and both have worked great. Now there coming out with a new add on viewfinder so eliminates one of the last knocks on Aquatica.
To jump back a bit:
I am also considering the 17-55 primarily as a shark lens when i manage to get back to cocos (wasn't shooting pics last time). Others seem to have success with it shooting whites & orcas from earlier posts - what are other opinions for this as a shark lens versus the 12-24 (I worry would be a bit too wide for shy hammers & other sharks). I think it would be great to get fullshots and portrait shots at the same time.
Just to be clear, I only buy nikon glass. For me that's the reason I buy a nikon camera, so no thoughts of Sigma etc.. Yes, the 18-70 is a consideration but I shoot a lot of low light & action topside therefore wanting a f/2.8. Also I feel the optical difference between consumer & pro lenses may be magnified when shooting UW(is this true???). That and Aquatica charts for my D200 housing recommend a +3 or +4 diopter with the 18-70 but not with the 17-55 thus reducing the consumer lens quality further.
Thoughts??
Undertow
NWDiver - How was your cocos comparison b/w the 12-24 & 17-55??