Leopard

I now have Leopard running on my MBP; no problems so far. All vital programs like Aperture and PS3 seem to run fine. I'm playing with some of the new features. Quite slick.

As always on a Mac the upgrade was painless; loaded in the CD, hit the upgrade button, walked away for a half hour, and all was well on my return. Not like my @@$$$%&$%%#%%&^& PC at the office today.

Loftus, have you seen this bug notice re: Aperture and Leopard, and particularly the use of Time Machine while Aperture is running.

Linkage here, from Apple

For the moment they recommend only doing manual Time Machine backups on machines that are running Aperture.

Great Jeff, but you are braver than I.

Actually my Leopard is in the mail......, but I'll wait to see if there are any major things before I install.

It is pretty slick isn't it? I watched the video and - well I thought the new .Mac Gallery I was putting together rocked - but now I see that Apple is really "working" the carousel theme!! Everything is in carousel - wooo-weeeee!

Can't wait to install it and thanks for the update. Let us know of any issues you might encounter. I don't run Aperture but that sounds like a pretty good idea to do manual backups at first - I think that sounds like good general advice too - just at first.

Best, Carol B)

Thanks for the pointer. No problems yet, but I will make sure Time Machine is off when I run Aperture for now.

Just today there was an Aperture 1.5.6 update.

Loftus, have you seen this bug notice re: Aperture and Leopard, and particularly the use of Time Machine while Aperture is running.

 

Linkage here, from Apple

For the moment they recommend only doing manual Time Machine backups on machines that are running Aperture.

I now have Leopard running on my MBP; no problems so far. All vital programs like Aperture and PS3 seem to run fine. I'm playing with some of the new features. Quite slick.

As always on a Mac the upgrade was painless; loaded in the CD, hit the upgrade button, walked away for a half hour, and all was well on my return. Not like my @@$$$%&$%%#%%&^& PC at the office today.

Hi Loftus,

I also installed Leopard on Friday night and until so far no problems. PS3 is running without any problems for me.

The only thing that bugs me until so far with Leopard is that it does not automatically mount my airport disk.

Spaces are a really nice add-on since now I can add one space for each task and run them with a large windows without having every app on top of the other.

Nuno

I don't run Aperture but that sounds like a pretty good idea to do manual backups at first - I think that sounds like good general advice too - just at first.

 

Best, Carol B)

Remember to always back up the entire drive before doing updates (SuperDuper and other apps will do this), so just in case something goes wrong you have a bootable copu and you can get the computer back

Also I will usually deauthorize apps such as Photoshop before upgrading just in case

The only thing that bugs me until so far with Leopard is that it does not automatically mount my airport disk.

Nuno

I've had that problem with airport not mounting ever since I got the MacBook Pro/Tiger 10.4.10. I never had that problem on my Powerbook G4 with Tiger 10.4.10. Sometimes airport mounts automatically - sometimes not and I have to access it from the bar and turn it on.

So that looks like a problem before Leopard possibly?

Remember to always back up the entire drive before doing updates (SuperDuper and other apps will do this), so just in case something goes wrong you have a bootable copu and you can get the computer back

 

Also I will usually deauthorize apps such as Photoshop before upgrading just in case

Yea - you da smart computer man! C

Although......

If you use Adobe Lightroom you will want to put off upgrading to Leopard. I hear the print module from Lightroom doesn't work at all along with a few other features in Lightroom.

A Lightroom update will come out which will fix this but I'll wait to install Leopard till the update of Lightroom comes out. I'm just learning to use Lightroom and I don't want some incompatibility bugs getting in the way at the moment.

Otherwise looks like other Adobe Photoshop applications are doing pretty well, most importantly PS CS3. But PS CS2 is having major issues that might not be resolved - so again check Adobe's site for compatibility info, as we of course all do beforehand....

There is lots of data out there about upgrading, the stuff on the Apple Support Docs site is scary (but then it is Halloween..... )

I particularly liked Terry White's experiences at :

http://terrywhite.com/techblog/

C

I am considering getting Leopard too, but one of the programs that is not compatible is Adobe Acrobat 8.0. I don't know what the incompatibility is, it would be great if any of you guys that already installed Leopard have Acrobat could test it and see if it doesn't work at all or just has a few new bugs.

Luiz no info on Acrobat 8 but this in on Leopard/Lightroom

I went to the Lightroom seminar today in Tampa, Florida (WP member Steve (Photobeat) was there also - good to see another WP person).

Scott Kelby didn't exactly say not to install Leopard (I don't think his "connections" would appreciate a blank statement like that) but when he used his assistant's computer he said:

"Now you haven't installed Leopard on this [computer] right?" (As he was going to demonstrate something in LR).

Scott confirmed that yes, as we had heard the Print command in LR doesn't work at all in Leopard but also that "a number of other things" also did not work. And we could "expect an update [to LR for fix] very soon".

So upshot is if you use LR it would be best to wait till the update to install Leopard or install Leopard and put up with whatever doesn't work in LR until Adobe releases the LR update fix.

I also ran into my computer guy at the seminar and he said to wait a month or so to install Leopard.

BTW Scott's seminar on Lightroom was absolutely AWESOME and in addition to his great "walk-through" of the program were live demos of wedding portrait shoot, flower shoot, shooting tethered w/D2X right into LR (very cool to see that done live - images right on and can be controlled from his MPB screen); and live portrait shoot, LR/PSCS3 then back to LR to print on the new Epson 3800 - Signature Worthy Exhibition Fiber paper.

The Tampa seminar sold out, it was packed (but we sat up front of course as loftus and photobeat know if you sit w/me at a seminar I always sit up front....... ). Scott's remaining LR seminar for 2007 is in Honolulu in December (Luiz you should go it is totally worth it and more...).

Best, Carol

One issue I am aware of is that my Colorbyte Imageprint RIP will not work, Colorbyte will have a fix in the next couple of weeks. Everything else seems fine, though I do not use Acrobat 8.

Just an update on my Leopard experience. I updated my laptop initially, then after a couple of weeks my desktop. All was well until yesterday. Aperture, Time Machine and Colorbyte Imageprint doing OK.

Yesterday afternoon, thought I'd play with Spaces. Immediately after, Mail and Safari started crashing. By some coincedence this started happening on my laptop which may have synched via .mac, I'm not sure. Since then nothing has solved the problem. Disabling Spaces, reinstalling OSX, repairs etc have not helped.

My one desktop at work with Leopard is still OK.

Leopard is a POS!

So far, dead keyboard/trackpad twice on my old Powerbook which acts as my backup server ... reverting to a fresh install cures it.

Reduced Airport reception, keychain problems that won't go away.

Went back to 10.4.11

Went back to 10.4.11

I have never deinstalled an OS and installed an earlier version; is it as simple as reinstalling the Tiger disc and running updates, or are there other things to take care of.

Edit: Apple support at least came through. I fixed the problem by resetting the power controller (SMC), also made sure that not only was Spaces disabled but also removed the applications that I had listed in Space 1 - Mail and Safari. All is well again. But of course not using Spaces.

I am a very happy user of Leopard. I've been running it since before it was officially released (home delivery was before the "official" release). Everything is working well now. At first I had some issues with iChat crashing, but that seems to be better after the 10.5.1 update.

I live in Spaces, I have been waiting for a decent virtual desktop implementation. I was using the same thing ~10 years ago on unix systems....and have been missing that feature since I had to abandon Linux as my primary OS.

Overall, Leopard is a great system. There are some quirks, I don't like the new Finder window/Spotlight search implementation, if I want to search by content I would use Spotlight...if I am in Finder I want to search file names, its lame you can't change those defaults...so I fixed it with a replacement for Finder.

An essential thing to remember is to disable Time Machine on any "database" type files. Fusion/Parallels virtual disks and supporting files, Aperture (Apple recommends to exclude it), Entourage database, and other large "files" that are updated frequently. The downfall of Time Machine is that it is file based for backups, which works well for most files...but not a 30GB VMware vdisk file that it backs up in its entirety during every backup (and locks the file in the process crashing your machine).

If you experience problems, I would first start by disabling TM which has been at the root of almost every issue I've had.

My experience has been very different. Overall I like Leopard, but it has had a LOT of quirks. The first was when I performed the upgrade on on my 4 month old MacBookPro. The upgrader got to a window where it asked me which hard disk I wanted to upgrade and if offered no options. After I waited a half hour and played with the Disk Utility it finally found my hard drive and did the upgrade.

After the upgrade I had serious problems getting a TimeMachine backup to work. It kept hanging the machine. I eventaully had to change my machine name from strainoff-mac to strainoff_mac, remove the Applications directory from the backup, and throw salt over my shoulder. Then it crashed the machine a few more times than then started working perfectly. I was even able to add the Applications directory back to the backup.

The next problem was that it broke my network printing to Windows based print servers. I was able to work around this by setting up a custom smb://user:pass@machine:139/Printer print entry that included my network credentials. The next thing it broke was my ability to drag and drop onto my Tiger based desktop at home. Then it broke my Parallels file system mounting. I was able to fix that by downloading a new macfuse filesystem. The Parallels is still partially broken. I can no longer have windows open mac programs.

The next problem was when I bought a new Leopard Imac at home and tried to use the Migration Assistant to copy my files from my old G5 Imac via firewire. It simply refused to see the remote file system and kept saying that there was no Mac OS x partition. I eventually did the migration manually from my backup disk.

Anyway, I have most everything working, but it definitely was NOT smooth. It didn't "just work". Overall the benefits of Leopard have been very marginal. If I had known what a pain it was going to be, I would have skipped the upgrade altogether. About the only new feature I use is TimeMachine. Although it is cool, I got about the same utility from Backup.app

My upgrade "just worked," with the exception of a few apps that weren't compatible. I now cannot survive without QuickLook, which is an awesome feature. Also, Mail.app is a lot faster, which is a great thing. And it's much easier to share screens between all the machines I have. I use VNC for this, normally, but Leopard makes this a lot easier.

Oh, and the new way to access network shares is a little quirky. Why is it that when a file save/open dialog pops up, you can't access your mounted shares directly? You have to click on a server, which then waits awhile before showing you the available volumes...

And finally, I made the switch to VMWare Fusion. It is much more responsive than Parallels is, and doesn't suck up CPU when idling. I love it.

Maybe I was a little negative since my experience was less than smooth. I agree that Quicklook is nice. I haven't used the remote desktop feature yet, so I can't comment on it. I will look into the VMWare. Thanks for the suggestion Eric.

Fortunately, Photoshop and Bridge still work fine

More likes:

Network shares no longer pop up a dialog box to connect when you have told it to save keychain information.

The machine doesn't freeze up anymore when you disconnect your machine from the network with a share mounted (HOORAY!).

Spaces works. It's no better than third-party multiple-desktop apps, but at least it's there.

The new iChat is really cool. I don't really use it, but I would if there were someone I wanted to take through a slideshow remotely. (Or, if I had to diagnose a problem on someone's machine).

iCal is still the best calendaring app I've used. A lot of my friends are on the road a lot and publish Google calendar feeds of their schedules. I just subscribe to them, and can always see where they are. There is a sync program that allows 2-way sync from iCal to Google Calendar, but it recently deleted all my friend's data (Leopard issue, I think), so I'm staying waaaaay away from it.

Stuff I don't like:

Time machine doesn't work for me AT ALL.

It broke some apps I use. Notably, SuperDuper! isn't yet fully compatible.

Twice now, I haven't been able to launch Preview.app (error message, and had to reboot). It's weird.

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Someone on this forum called Leopard "the new Vista" in one of my personal journal entry comments. That is totally not the case. Have you even used Vista!? That thing is a huge piece of crap! I still use XP, and will not upgrade until I see real progress in making Vista work.

Jeff, Eric and everyone,

Thanks so much for this data on Leopard. I'm upgrading but not till after I'm done with my Xmas computer stuff. I'm appreciative of any data like this listed and any other experiences I should know about.

Thanks a lot, Carol