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  1. Just took a dive trip to Morehead City, NC. Had fantastic weather and great diving. Went diving 7 days in a row. Must be a record in NC.

    Let me know what you think.

     

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    Can you believe we now have lion fish in the Atlantic? This was taken on the wreck of the Naeco in 140 ft of water. This is the 3rd year I personally have seen them there. They seem to be doing well. I saw 6 in the limited amount of time I had on the wreck. They are now featured in the Aquarium in NC. (where you can see another of my lionfish pictures).

     

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  2. Very good Sandy! Very good Sandy! Very good Sandy! Very good Sandy Very good Sandy!

     

    I removed the 5 extra identical postings for you already! :D

  3. It is great to see the lionfish shots from the Atlantic. I had heard about these exotic species before but never seen photos. I have also heard about a couple of species Indo-Pacific Angelfish and batfish that have been spotted off the US East Coast.

     

    Great shots too. Alex

  4. Very good Sandy! Very good Sandy! Very good Sandy! Very good Sandy Very good Sandy!

     

    I removed the 5 extra identical postings for you already! :D

    Thanks for getting rid of my extra post. How did you do that? I felt like such an idiot. I'm glad you fixed it before the rest of the board figured out what an idiot I am.

  5. How did you do that?

    That one of the abilities of the magic gold fishes (especially the cyber one)

     

    Do you have more shots of the Lionfish? I want to see the different from the spices we have here in the red sea.

     

    Arnon

  6. Do you have more shots of the Lionfish? I want to see the different from the spices we have here in the red sea.

     

    Arnon

    More lion fish from North Carolina.

     

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  7. Pterois Miles!

  8. Hello,

     

    Great shots!

    I live in NC and I go diving all the time from Morehead.

    I have seen the lion fish there too and unfortunately I didn't had my digital camera with me when I saw them last year (actualy I flooded that camera before that dive).

     

    I have never seen a flamingo tongue though. I am impressed!

     

    Did you find the flamingo tongue on Naeco also or it was on another dive?

     

    Here is one of my shots I got last weekend.

    http://24.74.150.92/all_my_pics/Beaufort_7...ful_grouper.jpg

     

    Vlad

  9. I first read about lionfish being spotted in the Atlantic about a year ago. I hope that some eventually find their way into the Caribbean. Supposedly, someone probably released some aquarium fish into the Atlantic, and - amazingly - they thrived.

     

    Here's a lionfish that I photographed in the Bligh Water.Vatu-I-Ra Channel in Fiji last April. It's definitely not the same markings.

     

     

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  10. I live in NC and I go diving all the time from Morehead.

    I have seen the lion fish there too and unfortunately I didn't had my digital camera with me when I saw them last year (actualy I flooded that camera before that dive).

     

    I have never seen a flamingo tongue though. I am impressed!

     

    Did you find the flamingo tongue on Naeco also or it was on another dive?

     

    Here is one of my shots I got last weekend.

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    Vlad

    The flamingo tongue was taken on the Carribsea. I have seen several of them there. That is my favorite wreck out of Morehead (and of any other wreck I have ever dove). There is so much to see. Sometimes you miss the little stuff cause there are so many Sandtiger sharks on that wreck but if you can ignore the sharks for a little bit you can find some great macro stuff. The wreck is so alive. It's fun to show my pictures to others that are on the same dive. They often miss the macro stuff.

     

    What dive op do you dive with? My husband crews with Diverdown so we make it there about 20 days a summer.

     

    Sandy

  11. Here's a lionfish that I photographed in the Bligh Water.Vatu-I-Ra Channel in Fiji last April. It's definitely not the same markings.

    Jimbo, this Lionfish is Pterois Volitans: You can tell by the more intricate facial markings. Miles has broader, more linear lines, as in the Gulfstream variety.

  12. Thanks, Cybergoldfish! I have the "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef Field Guide," but I hadn't been able to make a positive ID on the species. Is this the same fish as a Turkey Lionfish?

     

    Jim

  13. It is great to see the lionfish shots from the Atlantic. I had heard about these exotic species before but never seen photos. I have also heard about a couple of species Indo-Pacific Angelfish and batfish that have been spotted off the US East Coast.

    Ok,

     

    Lionfish have been spotted in North Carolina (obviously) but also in Jacksonville, Florida. Both places seem to have a small population which has held steady for the last couple of years, so they might be there to stay.

     

    The 'Flamingo Tongue' is not a Flamingo Tongue, but a Spotted Cyphoma also known as McGinty's Cyphoma (Cyphoma macgintyi). It is is obviously in the same family as the Tongues (Simnias), but is very defiently its own species.

     

    A small school of Pacfiic Batfish (about 6) were seen a couple of years ago in Key Largo, particularly in the area of the wreck of the Benwood where they had joined a small school of Atlantic Spadefish (which look very similar). Fisheries and Wildlife caught most of them a couple of years a go, and caught what is believed to be the last one last year. I haven't seen one in about 18 months.

     

    I haven't seen any of the Indo Angelfish is Florida or the Bahamas.

     

    M

  14. What dive op do you dive with? My husband crews with Diverdown so we make it there about 20 days a summer.

    Sandy,

     

    I usualy go with Discovery Diving.

    Caribsea ... that's what we dove two wekends ago and the visibility was not too good. I like the wreck but I have never seen something too good on it. True the sharks are pretty amazing. I need to look closer at the small stuff.

     

    Vlad

  15. The 'Flamingo Tongue' is not a Flamingo Tongue, but a Spotted Cyphoma also known as McGinty's Cyphoma (Cyphoma macgintyi). It is is obviously in the same family as the Tongues (Simnias), but is very defiently its own species.

    Marriad,

    Thanks for the biology lesson on the cyphoma. I have not heard it called that before. How is that differentiated from the flamingo tongue?

     

    The lion fish sure are pretty but it is interesting to see the impact they have on the reef. We use to see lots of Sandtigers on the Naeco and since the lion fish have arrived there are none there. I wonder if their being there has affected the sharks? The Papoose is not far from the Naeco and there are now only a rare Sandtiger on it and it used to be heavy populated (although we don't see lionfish there either). Makes you wonder what makes the sharks hang aroung a particular wreck? and do the lionfish impact on that??????

     

    Sandy

  16. Thanks, Cybergoldfish! I have the "Indo-Pacific Coral Reef Field Guide," but I hadn't been able to make a positive ID on the species. Is this the same fish as a Turkey Lionfish?

     

    Jim

    Jimbo,

     

    Lionfish go under various names as do most fish, making ID confusing. It is better, and Paul will agree, use the Latin.

     

    Lion fish Turkey fish, Fire fish all one in the same, but there are distinct differences throughout the families various genus and sub genus. They all belong to the Family scorpinadae

  17. Thanks for the biology lesson on the cyphoma.  I have not heard it called that before.  How is that differentiated from the flamingo tongue?

    Well when you put them next to each other the differences are pretty obvious. See below images.

     

    Color first - The Spotted Cyphoma has a white mantle with brownish/grey spots with a dark outline compared to the cream mantle and orange spots on the Flamingo Tongue

     

    Food - Flamingo Tongues almost exclusively eat the Common Sea Fan. I can't remember seeing this in North Carolina.

     

    Shell - although you can't see it the Spotted Cyphoma has a white shell while the Flamingo Tongue has a reddish-cream shell

     

    Habitat - the Spotted Cyphoma doesn't like light at all and is often found at depth where there is less light or covered in the shallows by sea grass or other cover. The Flamingo Tongue isn't particularly fond of light, but is nowhere near as sensitive and can be found in shallow reefs on Sea Fans in bright light.

     

    Lionfish go under various names as do most fish, making ID confusing. It is better, and Paul will agree, use the Latin.Lion fish Turkey fish, Fire fish all one in the same, but there are distinct differences throughout the families various genus and sub genus. They all belong to the Family scorpinadae

     

    And Cyber is correct - use Latin names when at all possible. Common names change from person to person, from area to area and from language to language.

     

    Latin names at least normally mean you are talking about the same animal - especially when you are talking about fairly established species. Unless you are trying to talk about Nudibranchs - then the scientific names change weekly and common names don't exist (but you do get to make them up yourself - Marriard's Nudibranch #1, Marriards Nudibranch #2, Paul's Nudibranch, etc, etc...)

     

    Lionfish do belong in the general family Scorpinadae - so do Scorpionfish, Frogfish, Anglerfish, Gurnards, Sea Robins, Californian Rockfish, Leaffish, Prowfish, Sculpins, et al. Nice big family to be part of.

     

    M

  18. They still look like designer ear-plugs!

     

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  19. Here's a quicky published in the UK: Originally aimed at Brit's

     

    Of the hundreds of families and thousands of species of fish found in Tropical and Sub-Tropical seas

    Only one particular family can boast the extremes: From the exotic to the morose...

     

     

    Scorpaenidae

     

     

    By Bob Whorton

     

    The Family Scorpaenidae is both large and diverse comprising of at least 10 sub-families, 70 genus, 350 species and numerous subspecies dotted around the world. For reasons of space this article looks only at the cross section of members that are encountered by sport divers in tropical and sub-tropical seas…Conceived to promote identification and an awareness of potentially lethal fish.

     

    The Common Lionfish: The perfect predator?

    The species most commonly encountered on almost every dive are Lionfish of the genus Pterois. 'Pterois Volitans' and similarly 'Pterois Miles' are amongst the worlds most exotic fish found commonly on almost every reef throughout the Indio pacific.

    Long feathery quills and sheer flamboyance ensure these species stay as the worlds most photographed of fish too.

     

    The only noticeable differences between these two particular species are their habits; 'Miles' being more active during daylight and has no Papillae or antenna, 'Volitans' does. The markings of the Lionfish can be very intricate, and no two are identical, ranging from black through red irregular bands with white edges Noticeable is the difference in facial markings between the two species, 'Miles' having a much less intricate line pattern than 'Volitans'.

     

    "Loud" you may think, but in a monochromatic world it provides total anonymity.

    During daylight hours the common Lionfish can be found amongst the reef shadows, its large well-developed eyes shunning bright sunshine, sitting headfirst in appropriate hollows.

     

    The common sweeper or glassfish constitutes a major part of the Common Lionfish diet; anywhere sweepers are; caves overhangs or wrecks Lionfish will be nearby. The Lionfish is a very cunning and intelligent predator and knows that trying to feed on sweepers during the day will end in conflict with their 'minders' the 'Red mouthed Grouper'. To off-set the risk of injury, individuals or groups of Lionfish gather at dusk to coincide with the passage of the small fish off to feed near the surface, and then at dawn when they return to their shelter. The 'Ghianis D' wreck in the Red Sea is one such place to witness what can only be described as a "Round-up", where as many as a dozen Lionfish will act as a team to herd the small fish into the reach of their mouths. On the reef the Lionfish spends ages stalking using its skirted pectoral fins to corner and trap its prey. The dorsal, pectoral and anal fins of the Lionfish are all venomous, each spine fed from a central poison gland attached to the fishes spine. Venom is delivered simultaneously in reaction to offending pressure. Lionfish rarely attack divers but will react defensively if cornered. The 'sting' delivered is proportional to the size of the fish, larger individuals are known to deliver a life-threatening dose. A well-fed specimen can reach 35 cm in length, found in depths of 1-50 M.

     

    Pterois Radiata: Clear finned Lionfish or 'Fire Fish' is distinctly different from the common Lionfish in both appearance and habit, so different I find it strange that it was classified into the same genera. Radiata is considered much rarer than the common Lionfish, but again this is debatable as in some areas of the Red Sea and Maldives they out number the rest by at least 5: 1. The truth is that Radiata is a truly nocturnal species that remains well hidden during daylight.

    The extended dorsal and pectoral fins have much less membrane attached to it; hence 'clear finned'. The rounded fringeless head, streamlined body with broader deep red banding on a red background set it apart from its cousin. Although 30% smaller than the Common Lionfish, Radiata' venom is no less potent, stings from this fish can be so painful they can induce anaphylactic shock and even death. Hunting techniques of Radiata are typical "Lionfish"; with the determination of a 'Terminator'. Radiata, when observed at night can be seen using its modified pectoral fins to 'tiptoe' around, thereby creating little or no pressure that may alert potential prey.

     

    Another common species around Indian Ocean reefs is 'Pterois Antennata' or 'Spot-fin Lionfish,'

    This species is an elaborate mixture of all of the aforementioned. In addition its pectoral skirt has blue iridescent spots; seemingly used to confuse predators who mistake the spots for the eyes of a much larger fish.

     

    The plumage or extended fin membranes of the Lionfish begin to develop when the fish is no bigger than a fingernail, the growth out accelerating that of the body. The oversized spines giving it a deceptively cute appearance not unlike a feather star, in reality the tiny fish is growing up into its life long protection; allowing it an above average chance of reaching maturity amongst the hostile "fish eat fish" environment of the seemingly peaceful coral reef. Main predators of Lionfish Species are Moray Eels and Napoleon Wrasse.

     

    To further enhance their hunting skills further Lionfish on several reefs in Egypt are now using divers to inadvertently assist them at night. As soon as someone enters the water with a torch they acquire an entourage of opportunists. It can be quite startling when one turns round to find 4 or 5 Lionfish right at ones elbow waiting to pounce on anything suitable that the torch lights up. This amazing adaptability furthers my respect of their obvious intelligence.

     

    Scorpaenopsis: The true Scorpionfish are in the middle of the family, its diversity of members provides the transition from pretty to pretty ugly…

     

    The common Scorpionfish, Sc. oxycephalus is the species generally encountered by divers sitting amongst or on top of coral heads. The body shape of this fish is similar to the common Lionfish but without the extended fin quills. Beginning just behind the broad head the pectoral fin is more fishlike, standing just proud of the membrane are the infamous poisonous spines. In normal relaxed mood the fins are folded back but once agitated the whole lot folds forward, locking into position. The well-developed pectoral fins are often spread out like a skirt, wrapping around the rocks to break up the fish's outline. Fleshy fronds further break up the body's outline and the regions of the mouth too. One of the most amazing things about this fish is its micro pigment cells in the outer layers of skin enabling rapid colour changes to suit its background, rendering it almost invisible and perfectly adapted to a life of predation by ambush.

     

    Scorpaenopsis Diabola the Devil/bearded Scorpionfish is the largest member of the family reaching a length of around 40 cm. The body and head though very similar to oxycephalus but much broader and takes on a dusky colouration. Above and below the eyes are growths and indentations that give it its devilish appearance. The fleshy growths below the mouth are quite long and bushy giving the impression of a beard. The habits of this fish are similar to the common scorpion, but being able to swallow much bigger prey. Maybe due to its confidence in size and defences this fish tends to be more passive and wholly unafraid of divers: However…

     

    Scorpaenopsis Gibbosa the 'Humpbacked' Scorpionfish is more often than not confused with the Stonefish, which is understandable, but it still has the same characteristic shape of a scorpion. Its stone-grey colouration gives it the appearance of a corpse, making it almost impossible to see in its chosen environment of coral scree and rubble. In contrast to the previous varieties the humpback remains one colour, relying totally upon ambush. The head of this fish is pronounced in a looking upward fashion with deeply set eyes and a bottom-hinged trapdoor mouth. The gill covers appear rigid and spiked. The well-pronounced hump on the fishes back is covered with what look like tiny hairs and the dorsal spines hinge upward from it. The pectoral fins are normally semi-folded to break up the outline on the scree, but once open reveal extraordinary flashes of colour. Yellow with blue &/or red circles, dots and stripes; not something you would readily expect to see on an otherwise drab fish. Maybe it acts to confuse prey passing overhead into momentary lapse giving the scorpion time to pounce. The camouflage of this fish is so good that even when you are looking at one, one blink and you can lose it again.

     

    My tip, and this comes from experience, before you get down photographing one make sure that you are not hovering a few inches above three more.

    Even with their formidable defence Scorpionfish form part of the food chain too; preyed on by Giant Moray and Napoleon Wrasse amongst others.

     

    In West Africa Scorpionfish are considered just another food fish. I was to find this out first hand when walking into a ships galley one evening to find one of the local divers scraping the spines off one… "That’s a Scorpionfish; they kill…" I gasped.

    "Tastes very good!" was the reply.

     

    Synanceia Verrucosa the 'Infamous' Stonefish brings us to the ugly end of the spectrum…

    The Stonefish has become almost a legend because of its invisibility and passive killing ability.

    It takes a very exacting eye to spot one at all, in fact you have probably swam over hundreds!

    The Stonefish becomes its most dangerous when sitting in shallow water on reef tops, making it prone to be stepped on. The majority of reported Stonefish stings throughout the world are caused by unsuspecting people treading on them; even wetsuit boots can offer little protection.

    The Stonefish is almost 'Egg Shaped' when viewed from above, its tail-fin curled around and pectoral fins slightly spread to further break up its outline. Tiny 'hairs' all over the body hold particles of sand - enhancing a stone-like appearance.

    Fully open the pectoral fins are marked in much the same way as the 'Humpbacked' Scorpionfish.

    The long dorsal fin containing the lethal spines rises only to swim, or under extreme prejudice. The eyes are set towards the top of the head; complete with movable eyelids. The large mouth is set back producing a pronounced chin. The edges of the mouth have an alternate red & white marking, maybe to mimic a shellfish. Any inquisitive fish is swallowed at the speed of light.

    Stonefish are still quite common, but due to the crazy antics of some dive guide’s, who actually pick them up for photographers they tend to shy away during the day, emerging at night in strategic positions. Needless to say one of the reported stings by stonefish included one such guide... shame that!

     

    A further warning about stonefish: -

    They may look clumsy and inert but they are very fast swimmers...

    This ability should never be underestimated, upset one and "passive" goes right out of the window!

     

     

    Poison and treatment

    The toxic venom at best will cause excruciating pain that can be felt spreading from the effected area. It will also lead to paralysis and shock. If not treated quickly (especially with stonefish stings) the episode may prove even fatal. The important thing is to get out of the water "PRONTO" and seek immediate help and treatment. When no anti-venom is available (rarely is) the effected area should be immersed in very hot water to elevate the pain and cause the venom to clot before it can effect the working of vital organs such as the heart, brain and respiratory system. The venom is thick and stringy like the white of an egg, having similar properties it thickens in the same way on exposure to the hot water (like a poached egg).

    Professional medical help must still be sought to remove the problem all together.

Nauticam

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