FF Gear for Ambient Light Photo + Video (A7III vs. Z6 vs. EosR/5dmIV)

Thanks everyone!

@Interceptor121  you convinced me. However, ist really true that you can shoot practically full open without the need of stepping down with a WWL-1 + 14-xxmm Lens? So I can shoot f4 with the WWL-1 where I would need to step down to at least f11 with a FF + 8/9" dome?

This review sounds very different: https://www.bluewaterphotostore.com/nauticam-wwl1-review-tests

"Micro Four Thirds Conclusion

Overall all three lenses are great and each can serve its specific purpose well. If you are looking for a fairly wide lens, with flexibility for zooming and are more concerned about sharpness and quality, sticking with the native lens like the 9-18mm or 7-14mm are best." 

This confuses me as they recommend native lenses + dome instead of the WWL-1?

@hyp well, this wouldn't allow me to zoom and I prefer to be able to zoom at least to some extent. 

WWL-1 is sharp at f/5.6 that’s at least 2 stops to full frame
Rectilinear lenses especially 7mm end are nowhere near and have distorted edges. If you are adamant on rectilinear get the 8-18mm at least is less messy but you will shoot f/8



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Still WWL-1 shots



Make your own judgement


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Wow, this looks very sharp!

Would you recommend the new WWL-C over the WWL-1?  

I am now contemplating which system to go for. Seems like the WWL-C is cheaper an also compatible with some APSC Camera such as the A6500. I might opt for either WWL-C or WWL-1 and choose either a EM5 III, EM1 II or A6500 :), 

I tested the original WWL-1 when it was released and I am happy with it
Originally was designed for 1” compact but tested on sony A7 fits MFT just great
WWL-C is a smaller version probably weight wise better for compact and fit for 24mm lens instead of 28. I have not tested it and am not going back to compacts but am sure it is a good product


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On 3/1/2020 at 9:04 PM, freediver87 said:

I am currently using a Olympus OMD EM10 II and starting t reach its limits in terms of dynamic range, resolution etc. (see my instagram profile https://www.instagram.com/freediver87/

I think the problem is not the camera, dynamic range or resolution. You can see a gallery with photos taken with Olympus OMD E-M10 III (same sensor as your camera model EM10II): https://www.instagram.com/masuleti_underwater

All pictures were taken with Panasonic 8mm Fisheye with Nauticam 4.33" dome port and M.Zuiku 60mm Macro

On 3/4/2020 at 10:02 AM, turandot said:

I think the problem is not the camera, dynamic range or resolution. You can see a gallery with photos taken with Olympus OMD E-M10 III (same sensor as your camera model EM10II): https://www.instagram.com/masuleti_underwater

All pictures were taken with Panasonic 8mm Fisheye with Nauticam 4.33" dome port and M.Zuiku 60mm Macro

Well, you took these shots with artificial light so that's not a good comparison

I think the point worth making is that as I wrote recently at equivalent DOF there is no benefit of a full frame camera unless you push the ISO at extremely high values >26000

https://interceptor121.com/2020/03/07/choosing-a-camera-format-for-underwater-photography/

I think in all scenarios you need to abandon the idea of a domes and rectilinear lenses (this may be an issue if you have people in the shot) so that you can open the lenses and get more light in.

For what you want to spend I would consider the Nikon D7200 with Tokina 10-17 in the classified section right now that would be a great purchase for $2500

On 3/2/2020 at 5:19 PM, Akoni said:

Interesting! Have you used this combo? It seems to make the Sony outfit among the most flexible with it ability so many lens types. Don't the Sony's have issues with WB underwater though?

It would be really interesting to hear on expericnce on this combo.   I like to (and do) shoot a lot of fisheye and CWFA today.  The combo Sony 7II (or later) with Canon 8-15 would be interesting if decently compact and handling is great.

Cheers

/O

I shut my Sony A7R.... with the  Sigma 15 mm FE with via Metabones adapter behind the Nauticam 140 mm Optical Glass dome port with great results.But the quality of the 8-15 mm it is definitely better, how much better I'm not sure.