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Alternatives to Nikon 17-35mm&12-24mm??

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Alternatives to Nikon 17-35mm&12-24mm??

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  1. Current lenses Nikon 10.5mm, 18-35mm, 60mm, and the 105mm. Nikon D100 in Aquatica housing.

     

    1st I am thinking about upgrading my Nikon 18-35mm to the Nikon 17-35mm. Anyone done this? Is there a significant difference? Any alternatives that don’t cost US$1300?

     

    Given my current (lets including 17-35mm) lens line-up, is there another lens I should be looking at rather than the 12-24mm? Alternative to the Nikon 12-24mm?

     

    Any lens you feel we should not be without?

     

    Fair EBay price for a excellent Nikon 18-35mm? (couple of dimples in the zoom ring from zoom gear)

  2. Hi,

     

    On a cropped sensor camera, you won't see ANY difference in quality between the 18-35 and 17-35. I used the 18-35 when I had the S2pro, but when I upgraded to the Kodak ProSLRn, I had to buy the more expensive 17-35. There is a BIG difference on full frame cameras, but on the D100, again - I would say it isn't worth the swap.

     

    If you're looking for a good "mid-range" zoom for cropped cameras, I think that would be the 17-55DX

     

    Cheers

    James

  3. Alternatives to Nikon's 12-24 are

     

    sigma 10-20 F/4-5.6

     

    Tokina 12-24 F/4

     

    and

     

    Tamron 11-18 F/4.5-5.6

     

    The Tokina received excellent reviews. I haven't read anything about the others.

  4. I tried both the 17~35 and 18~35 Nikon lenses. Both were very sharp but the 18~35 had a tendency to produce a hard blue flare spot if a very bright (sun, etc.) object was in the image. Other than that there was little difference in the results.

  5. The Tokina received excellent reviews. I haven't read anything about the others.

     

    I have the Tokina and will be testing it underwater for the first time next week. I've used it a bit on land and like it so far. The other two lenses (Sigma and Tamron) are not available for purchase yet -- that may explain why they haven't received much in the way of user reviews yet . . .

     

    Mike

  6. I've learned the hard way that you can't cheap out in uw photography. A primary reason to shoot Nikon (or Canon; I don't want to start that debate) is the excellence and reliability of factory glass. Nikon's 12-24 is a versatile tool that I use whenever I'm unsure of what I'll encounter underwater.

  7. I've learned the hard way that you can't cheap out in uw photography.  A primary reason to shoot Nikon (or Canon; I don't want to start that debate) is the excellence and reliability of factory glass.  Nikon's 12-24 is a versatile tool that I use whenever I'm unsure of what I'll encounter underwater.

     

    That's OK, all you really did was bypass the first most acrimonious debate for the second: the infamous factory vs. non-factory debate! :o

     

    A few years ago I might have wholeheartedly agreed with you. However, I was convinced to consider the Sigma 15mm fisheye when I went looking at the Canon 15mm fisheye, ended up with the Sigma, and saved some money. Much of what I can find on the Tokina 12-24mm leads me to believe that it is as good (if not almost as good, or better, depending on what you're looking for) than the Nikon (or the Sigma) and it is substantially less expensive. My personal opinion on this whole business (like with the Canon/Nikon debate), is that it is hard to compare entire product lines and arrive at accurate generalizations. I currently shoot a Canon body and there are certainly some Canon lenses I don't really prefer as well as some Tokina ones that I don't really prefer. However, the Tokina 12-24mm is one that I would recommend based on the reviews and my experience with it so far. If my camera could use the Canon 10-22mm, my decision might have been different. However since I'm currently unable to use EF-S lenses, the Tokina 12-24 was a no-brainer for me.

     

    In the grand scheme of things all that really matters is that the purchaser is happy with whatever he or she purchased. You are. I am. We both win!

     

    Mike

  8. Whilst I fully agree that there are many good lenses out there by both manufactures of cameras and independents, thats not all there is to it. Often the mechanics of cheaper lenses are not as well built or robust as more expensive glass. But in a housing this may not be a real worry. I know an underwater photographer who has been using the same Nikon fit Sigma 50mm macro since the early 90s and he's still perfectly happy with it - great!

     

    If you intend to use lenses heavily topside too then mechanics can be worth thinking about as can spares - a manufacturer who constantly updates and changes specs may not support lenses as long as one which builds the same lens for a long time. Also adjusted specs can be a real pain when it comes to setting up a lens with gears or ports.

     

    There are other issues too, such as whether lenses, especially zooms, are supported by housing manufacturers - getting a zoom gear can sometimes be problematic for some lenses and whilst not insuperable (there are a fair few custom builders out there) this can take time and money.

     

    Lastly, even camera manufacturers produce varying quality lenses these days. A cheap lens is usually cheap for a reason and an expensive one costs more because it is probably better designed and built, and digital cameras are, in my opinion, far less forgiving than film ones when it comes to showing up lens flaws.

  9. Thanks for all the info. I checked Aquatica's site and most of the alternate lenses mentioned are not listed. I sent them an email to see if the list is up to date. Wondering if the 8†dome can handle the Nikon 12-24mm shouldn’t it handle the others? The Sigma 10-20 and Tonika look interesting. After reading comments I think I will stick with the 18-35mm, add one of the above lenses. I agree with others in that I really like the 10.5mm but find limited situations that it can be used in. My wife is very patient but I don't get all day to sit and frame a shot.

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