External Storage for EX1 - Possible solution

50 GIG blu-Ray...so how long will it takes to burn that at 4x speed.

 

Kelly hands me the tape from Whale Sharking yesterday.

I suck it in, 15 mins, add graphics at start and end, drop the music on, no edits are needed cause I taught her well..... and 20 mins later I had the 7 DVD's made.

 

Throw the now full $5 tape into the cupboard ....archiving done.

I don't know how long it takes. I'll let you know when I cut my first Blu-Ray. But what I CAN tell you is how it looks. And it's nothing like tape based DV.

I suppose in your industry, there is a need to produce DVDs quickly to hand off to clients. I guess since I started in film photography (before SLR) I think more along the lines of film. Shoot, develop, print. In my work, I am willing to sacrifice the expedient nature of shooting and archiving on a single tape, for the higher quality of rolling tapeless. I can roll longer, I can ingest faster, and I get no dropouts, dirty heads, or other tape maladies.

What was your industry like when everyone had 8mm or 16mm film?

Also, I am curious. How often do you retension your archived tapes? I'm sure you'd want to prevent print-through issues, especially since DV Tape stock is a LOT thinner than 16 or 35mm film, but I am just curious how often you do this.

The idea of dumping my footage to a device, and not being able to check it prior to formatting my P2 cards scares the ever living bejeepers out of me. I realize that a laptop is a pain in the rear, but what happens if it's a bad transfer or something? I have a 17" MBP, and I just got a couple of 200GB Glyph 7200 RPM FW800 bus powered drives. It takes just a few minutes to log and transfer, double check that the footage is on the drives, and then reformat my cards - and I can do it all without having to plug in to a wall. Sure it's a little cumbersome, but in the end I know my footage is transferred and safe.

The idea of dumping my footage to a device, and not being able to check it prior to formatting my P2 cards scares the ever living bejeepers out of me.

I now have the backup unit in my hand so I will be testing that on Monday with a dump direct from camera. It has a bit for bit verify feature after the dump so i hope this will satisfy those nervous issues. The flash reader should arrive Tuesday and I will test with that then.

Mark

Report on the 2700 Unit: There is good and bad news:

The bad news : It doesnt work. Although unit worked with some consumer sony products, it would not sync upto the EX1 or the card reader,

The good news: It is really fast with flash cards and memory sticks for still photogs. nextodi is sending me a new unit called the 2725 from Korea to test. It is on the market there but not here yet. It has the hardware and firmware to sync with the P2 Pannys and the sxs Sonys. I will report back on it as soon as I have one in hand.

Here is the page with the info:

http://www.nextodi.com/en/product/ND2725_en.html

Mark

Hello Forum,

I just got back from Belize for an EX1/Gates shakeout. More on that in the other topic. For now I want to review the Nexto Video storage device and how it worked for me on a daily basis while diving. I purchased the unit directly from Nexto in Korea as it was not yet available here in the states. The 320gb version is expected to be around $325. The bottom line is that for ease of use, reliability, and functionality; the device did exactly what it was suppose to do. Connect to the camera, download and verify the flash card contents in under 10 minutes, and allowed me to erase the card and keep filming. I recorded 3 dives a day from the boat, each dive almost filling up the single 8gb card I had in the camera. During the surface interval I backed up the card, verified the data, and erased the flash card with plenty of time for juice and donuts before the next dive. Here are some pics and more info.

The unit can stay in the housing if you want, there is room. It plugs into the USB port and after accepting the connect, you can begin the transfer.

You can then choose to verify the download by sampling or complete verify

After I returned to the room that evening, I connected the video storage(Nexto 2725) directly to my Nexto extreme 2700 unit and backed up the days footage to the second drive. Note: Both these devices have flash card slots as well for photography backup.

The internal LI battery on the unit lasted for all three dives and the backup at the end of the day. There is an optional external battery but I never had to use it. The U60 battery on the camera just made it through the process with about 20 minutes to spare after three dives and backups. The unit is suppose to work with the external flash reader but I havent tested that. If it works, it should save battery life on the camera but you will need AC to run the reader. The only issue I have with the video storage unit is that it will only backup slot A on the camera. Overall, I was happy with the results. When I got home the file structure was saved correctly on the video storage device and the EX Clip Browser imported the clips and rewrapped them with no problem.

Very cool. I just picked up 1 of the Nextodi Extremes. Testing my portable solar panel to see if they will charge.

I'll pick up the video version once the 500GB comes out. 320 just isn't enough right now.

Very cool. I just picked up 1 of the Nextodi Extremes. Testing my portable solar panel to see if they will charge.

I'll pick up the video version once the 500GB comes out. 320 just isn't enough right now.

Mine came without a hard drive so I slapped in a 320gig. I think the bios has to support a larger drive but if it does, you should be able to put one in. For that matter, you can change out a drive when it is full. 320 gig = 300 formatted which = (300/8gig card)x25minutes=15 hours of highest quality on the EX1.

The video version does Panny P2 as well but I don't know what that equals time wise.

Now that is a pretty cool device....tapeless is starting to look a little brighter. Can you transfer data from one to another so you could just take two of those on a trip and have redundancy without lugging a laptop?

Now that is a pretty cool device....tapeless is starting to look a little brighter. Can you transfer data from one to another so you could just take two of those on a trip and have redundancy without lugging a laptop?

That is exactly what I am doing in the last photo. No laptop involved.

WOW cool rig there, hope you post some footage.

Don't drop those delicate drives...all your cookies (footage) are in one big barrel now:)

WOW cool rig there, hope you post some footage.

 

Don't drop those delicate drives...all your cookies (footage) are in one big barrel now:)

Maybe buy two of them and dump the card to make two copies, and don't use he hard drives as hockey pucks and it may work out okay

Actually many drives now come with a free fall sensor that parks the head when it's dropped.

WOW cool rig there, hope you post some footage.

 

Don't drop those delicate drives...all your cookies (footage) are in one big barrel now:)

Wags... you know your going tapeless when that company you love and 'work for'..lol.. begins with 'A' ends with 'CO' brings out the housing for the EX3 so i dont know why your putting up the argument...

Dive safe

DeanB

Wags... you know your going tapeless when that company you love and 'work for'..lol.. begins with 'A' ends with 'CO' brings out the housing for the EX3 so i dont know why your putting up the argument...

 

Dive safe

 

DeanB

Wags, tapeless? The first sign of the Apocolypse, the second is when Wags switches to a Mac.

Ha ha...yes I will get a EX3 later, hopefully by then there will large cheap solid-state drives out so I don't have to lug super delicate hard drives around.

As for getting it under the water, the old FX1 does a good enough job for what I do. Yes there is an increase in quality between the two but it's not enough to justify all that money to get it underwater. Up top though the 35mbps format will handle pans, movement and zooms much better. As for the Canadians...I don't really know what they are up to.

As for going to a MAC ....I don't think so...I'm doing so much more on my PC.

Funny there was some guys the other day chatting about how come they can only run 1 instance of a certain program on their OSX MACS at the same time.....so I though I wonder how many I can run of the same program on the PC .....I ended up having 10 opened up and running no problems

As for going to a MAC ....I don't think so...I'm doing so much more on my PC.

Funny there was some guys the other day chatting about how come they can only run 1 instance of a certain program on their OSX MACS at the same time.....so I though I wonder how many I can run of the same program on the PC .....I ended up having 10 opened up and running no problems

Haha once you go Mac you'll never go back as the saying goes

Cheers, Simon

Got the Nexto extreme and a Toshiba MK3252GSX 320GB and it works like a treat with both my SDHC 16gb card as well as the internal memory of my Canon HF10 via the USB connection. The auto sync to an external HD is also a great feature for back ups.

Ha ha...yes I will get a EX3 later, hopefully by then there will large cheap solid-state drives out so I don't have to lug super delicate hard drives around.

 

HA HA HAH !!!!! I bloody new it... after all those arguments.... You sly git...

 

As for the Canadians...I don't really know what they are up to.

 

 

Yeah.. whatever

 

Dive safe

 

DeanB