17 minutes ago, ehanauer said:Will my GH5 stop working once the GH5 II and GH6 are released?
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17 minutes ago, ehanauer said:Will my GH5 stop working once the GH5 II and GH6 are released?
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On 5/26/2021 at 5:48 AM, Interceptor121 said:dynamic range underwater is totally overrated. Look at the histogram of your shots and you will see many are lacking contrast and in some cases the blue channel has a gamut clip
The issue is lack of light which means noise. Smaller sensor more noise. However smaller sensor requires 1/4 of the strobe power to get the same depth of field so at the end if you have good strobes and video light your MFT cameras goes further
Indeed if you don't get close of the subjects you loose a lot of details & contrast, mostly because of the water (that we love).
Maybe I used the wrong terms (sorry for my english). I was mainly speaking about recovering details in high & low lights. I own a D800 since many years, and when I compare how I can recover details in the high lights and low lights on a photo, there is much more informations on the D800 than on the GH5 for the same conditions (above water).
Maybe it is because the raw are 14 bits on the D800 and 12 bits on the GH5, or just the amazing capabilies of Nikon D800 sensor. So I was speaking about "stops" I think.
I use 2x RETRA PRO flash for lightning and I'm very happy with the colors, no doubt.
By the way I use also my GH5 also above water because the D800 and its optics are heavier and I'm glad to bring the GH5 when I go hiking for long days. And I can see the differences when lighting conditions become hard (sunset at back, subject on the first plan, ..)
I'll check on the tests when the GH5II body will be out. The fact that the housing might be compatible with the new GH5ii (chances are high) is already a very good news, also if I want to sell my housing or recycle in video/streaming camera.
Indeed if you don't get close of the subjects you loose a lot of details & contrast, mostly because of the water (that we love).
Maybe I used the wrong terms (sorry for my english). I was mainly speaking about recovering details in high & low lights. I own a D800 since many years, and when I compare how I can recover details in the high lights and low lights on a photo, there is much more informations on the D800 than on the GH5 for the same conditions (above water).
Maybe it is because the raw are 14 bits on the D800 and 12 bits on the GH5, or just the amazing capabilies of Nikon D800 sensor. So I was speaking about "stops" I think.
I use 2x RETRA PRO flash for lightning and I'm very happy with the colors, no doubt.
By the way I use also my GH5 also above water because the D800 and its optics are heavier and I'm glad to bring the GH5 when I go hiking for long days. And I can see the differences when lighting conditions become hard (sunset at back, subject on the first plan, ..)
I'll check on the tests when the GH5II body will be out. The fact that the housing might be compatible with the new GH5ii (chances are high) is already a very good news, also if I want to sell my housing or recycle in video/streaming camera.
On 5/26/2021 at 7:49 PM, Lionfi2s said:The GH5s Prores raw update seems the most interesting to me.
GH5mkII i don't see a real value for people doing mostly video to upgrade.
Gh6 I would rather wait to see the final product and then decide whether it is worth it or not.
At the moment I just ordered a Gh5s. Having a ninja V already made it a somehow easy (-er) decision.
I am very curious to see the difference between the GH5 mkI and GH5s shooting the same scene the same day initially on Panasonic all-i codec.
In addition to Proress raw, I wish Panasonic for GH5s can give us Blackmagic Braw ( I know it is not truly RAW format but it is so efficient and brings RAW capabilities in post production) like they have done with the higher models. I don’t wont to change to another editor and a different workflow other than Davinci Resolve.
2 hours ago, thani said:In addition to Proress raw, I wish Panasonic for GH5s can give us Blackmagic Braw ( I know it is not truly RAW format but it is so efficient and brings RAW capabilities in post production) like they have done with the higher models. I don’t wont to change to another editor and a different workflow other than Davinci Resolve.
We are on the same boat here Thani, but it is highly unlikely.
First you would need another recorder to capture BRAW the Ninja wont do it. Then Resolve doesn't look likely to support Prores Raw in the near future.
FCPX is really an amateur software when it comes to color grading compared to Resolve and Resolve upgrades have made it a very capable all in one solution.
For the time being the only solution seems to be doing the initial adjustment on the Prores RAW file to one of the apps that support it (FCPX or Scratch) and then export a Prores 4444 file to work with in Resolve. Not the most efficient solution but does the job.
On 5/28/2021 at 6:56 PM, Lionfi2s said:We are on the same boat here Thani, but it is highly unlikely.
First you would need another recorder to capture BRAW the Ninja wont do it. Then Resolve doesn't look likely to support Prores Raw in the near future.
FCPX is really an amateur software when it comes to color grading compared to Resolve and Resolve upgrades have made it a very capable all in one solution.
For the time being the only solution seems to be doing the initial adjustment on the Prores RAW file to one of the apps that support it (FCPX or Scratch) and then export a Prores 4444 file to work with in Resolve. Not the most efficient solution but does the job.
Agreed, and I don’t mind housing the blackmagic Video assist to get that. I was hoping that BM brings a new update for the Pocket Camera with a better sensor than current - it is rumored to be the same as GH5s - this way I can update my whole setup including the housing. Until now, I am really happy with the quality of the GH5s image. Without artificial lighting the IQ is good pushed until iso 6400. I’ll post a link later.
I am also happy with Davinci Resolve workflow and the all in one solutions it offers. It is becoming a very rich platform.
On 5/26/2021 at 8:29 PM, Davide DB said:Good question.
A friend of mine produce incredibile footage with his GH5s.
In choosing whether it's the camera or his skill, I've always thought of the second option.
In the next few months I should be shooting something with him side by side. I'll let you know...
I totally agree that the GH5s produces beautiful image. Just add a red color filter and white balance on a gray card or glove in my case. It is that simple
Here is a footage I shot without lights of wreck that lies at 24m depth with bad visibility:
Thani, Love your piece. Color, composition and focus. You are very good at this craft. I get the low visibility challenge but in many shots it works to diffuse the light nicely.
Seems I should craft-up to document a changing world.
Simple question, Did you White Balance for nearly every scene change?
On 6/2/2021 at 4:29 AM, Whipauee said:Thani, Love your piece. Color, composition and focus. You are very good at this craft. I get the low visibility challenge but in many shots it works to diffuse the light nicely.
Seems I should craft-up to document a changing world.
Simple question, Did you White Balance for nearly every scene change?
Thank you for the complement
Re. White balance, I tend to do WB when the light changes either due to depth changes or due to environment changes such shooting under a clef or in shadow part/inside of the wreck.
I just WB on my gray glove which makes it quite simple (with a red filter on my lens)
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