4 hours ago, Interceptor121 said:
No for video you need to look at V60 or V90 not the random read and write. You need sustained write speed
Nobody mentioned any random read/writes. Similarly like nobody has said that card size impacts how many images fit the buffer. Yet here we are.
4 hours ago, Interceptor121 said:
A card may do 300 MB/s read and stop recording video at 400 Mbps it has happened it has been the issue with Sandisk
Details please, otherwise is the same as statement on using V90 cards on GH5 and "never having to stop recording". Or a statement in other topic about "60MB/s external NVMe speeds" and how they are "waste of time".
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Card and buffer are unrelated a camera always writes into buffer it can’t write directly to card
How to contradict oneself in one sentence or less.
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Even if just to try why have a £3999 device with some functionality removed at cost of saving £25?
As mentioned, prices paid will vary a lot based on how/where gear was acquired. Also now 20 Euro mentioned before becomes 25 pounds it seems. Not to mention clearly in your eyes anybody who gets such camera must be very wealthy and read to throw money around left and right as I assume you do ?
5 hours ago, Interceptor121 said:
V60 card is 60 MB/s as the difference is small no point not getting a kingston v90 and you have the benefit to speed up transfer to your PC
If you use compresses raw and jpeg sony indicates 1000 images for a 128 GB card. So each write is 128MB
If you go one week on a live aboard and make 20 dives you will even risk filling up your cards
So now we are assuming V60 is 60MB/S max ? Huh? Didn't i just touched on that when talking about your Sony "minimum" specs? Those are the speeds set by standard as minimum guaranteed. But as we can see from actual card benchmarks, those are more often way above that.
Let's have a look at the card you have been so much promoting, Transcend (which is actually one of the worse performing V90 cards)
Barely over 10MB/s difference, even in Sequential Q8 benchmark. Now should we extrapolate the price (as I am failing to find a 256GB version), it would be on average 3-4x more expensive than Team Group V60 card, while providing barely any benefit.
And again we are at the question, would getting super fast card have any measurable benefits (since we already know our bitrate, even went for 2x that in case). Unlikely. However getting a lower one and then going for capacity instead would.
One can then fit whole trip (even with Sony humongous sizes) then have a copy on the laptop, in other words each one acting as a backup of the other. With tiny sizes you constantly have to juggle things around, and in case of a backup, are forced to get yet another external drive to achieve that, meaning extra hassle and cost.
5 hours ago, Interceptor121 said:
The total transfer time of two 128GB cards is not short either a 50% speed increase is welcome
Not sure transfer time is the holy grail of photography. And where is that 50% coming from ? From now conveniently quoted standard V60/V90 speeds? Looking at real benchmarks (like vs Transcend) difference is a few percent if that.
Would you really fill 128GB card a day? That is lots of shots. And clearly shows a need to think about larger capacity perhaps. And if the transfer speed, as in a few minutes extra is such an important factor, then again, that is something to consider indeed. Or hiring an assistant that does it for you.
4 hours ago, Interceptor121 said:
I have used those kingston cards for a few years in my GH5 and now in the Sony they are extremely performing and cost effective
I use blackmagic speed test and on my macbook pro I get 225 sustained write and 250 MB/s sustained read with 5 GB stress those cards have done better than my angelbird which at the time were much more expensive
https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/reviews/sd-cards/kingston-canvas-react-plus-64gb-uhs-ii-memory-card/
€89 in Europe a no brainer really compared to Sandisk and Sony Tough travelling a 139-169 euros
Make sure to compare similar sizes, meanwhile you quote prices for different sizes left and right. If we look at Kingston in 256GB size, that is 184 Euro on geizhals (or 191 Euro on Amazon).
In addition, CrystalDiskMark is the golden standard in testing storage performance. Plus make sure to explain what kind of sequential speeds you are quoting.
Also amazon is not everything, use price comparison engines relevant to OP geographical location like idealo/geizhals.
4 hours ago, Interceptor121 said:
The obscure brands @makar0n suggested do no cost less in Europe and less proven. Kingston has made memory for apple and windows computers makes SSD and all sorts of other memories and is extremely reliable
This is by far my favorite sentence, as it literally illustrates the problem here.
So let's talk about those "obscure brands" (I will show mercy and skip "apple and windows computers")
Both manufacturers are well known in computing world for producing top tier NVMe storage. Heck, ever heard of Puget Sounds? They have just abandoned usage of Samsung 980 Pro series in favor of those "obscure brand" Sabrent drives.
But it gets better, you claim Kingston makes SSDs and "all sorts of other memories". Sure, but you know what SSDs (or "all sorts of other memories" ) are made of? NAND memory and controller in general. And Kingston does not directly manufacture these per se, but through a stake in Kioxia (formerly Toshiba). And in case of the SD cards it actually uses yet another company controllers, Phison.
Now guess which memory and controllers are used in Sabrent for example? Och wait, would that be also Kioxia and Phison?
Indeed totally unreliable then. Let's all now pile up and buy Kingston, of course via your affiliate link cleverly hidden there.
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I guess the op was asking people that either have the same camera or similar for opinions and I have given one which takes into account the fact that my camera is similar and more demanding than the one he talks about
I am not sure I understand what camera you have or shoot and the basis of your comparison as I said you need to look at the entire pipeline
What camera do you shoot what files does it produce and what equipment you have for processing? If you are far away from the op case I do not think other than reading 3rd party sources you are in a position to advise better than someone who has a very similar rig
Have you ever used any other type of card than SD card that you have an appreciation of the physical and logical differences?
If your starting point is a camera that produces 16-20 MB files and all it supports is an SD maybe not even UHS-II is a very different situation than the camera of the op
Lots of assumptions what OP thinks again. And nothing like a good old personal attack when running out of arguments. While dishing out advice NOT having the actual camera, and not only for this model, nor only on this website.
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Sarcasm removed. Decided not to get personal.
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