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No real reason it shouldn't work with the GoPro, since you can shoot in at a set white balance (native) and set white balance in post-production. However, do keep in mind that that this is very tricky even with manual white balance and will probably give good results in a narrowish-set depth range. The standard still being to use filters for ambient light dominant shots and no filter for artificial light dominant shots - also, ambient filters on the lights will halve the light output (though recent keldan models have pre-filtered LED modules to counteract this issue) I would also advise against using Backscatter filters for this, and go with a more "tried-and-true" filters like the UR-Pro cyan (or equivalents) or the Keldan Spectrum (-2, or the -1.5 in gel sheets). Here are some threads to expand on the subject: cheers ben

Capital, old fruit – now do be a good chap and give us the lowdown on what Inon’s up to, eh? We need to make sure the Cousins don’t get wind of it, if you catch my drift. Just sidle over to the Japanese strobemaster – do keep out of sight, mind – and while he’s off on one of his little distractions, grab a few snaps for us eh? Then, once you’ve got the goods, scurry back sharpish and let us know what’s what. Keep it neat, keep it clean, and for heaven’s sake, don’t get caught – You know the drill, my dear fellow. Good man.

If gets anyone meets Bonfire Master Ram Yoro, say hi from Bakushin Ben (and maybe remind him and others of the many advantages of joining the Waterpixel party? 😁)

wow - the 90mm shots are really impressive, given how skittish these guys are! Behavioural sequences are great - I'd never actually spent much time with garden eels (despite passing by them daily...), and this is pretty fascinating. I guess with the burrows being so close they must have some kind of competing / symbiotic relation. Slipping down the slippery off-topic slope, there - to regain footing, a 3 minute-ish cut would highlight the material better I think, looking forward to it! cheers

yeah, I usually do what I'm told so I click like and subscribe 🤣 (I do have a few actual faves in that list, but I think it's good practice to keep an eye on stuff you don't really like as well...) - oh and I did exclude out most primarily talking heads + tutorial / gear channels, focusing on those that host actual UW video content rather than tests, hence no Lebo, Durand et al. 😁

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I like it a lot - really nice angles and intriguing effect with the 360° shot in the begining, lovely closeups (are these cropped in?) and but also really great to watch the eels interacting which each other like they do 3 minutes in, which is something I've never paid attention to - but I agree it's too long, with repetitive shots - I would restructure and trim it down to tight 3:30 and avoid the music change altogether. Kudos on the patience to shoot these guys - now that I've seen them interacting like this makes me want to get some footage as well! cheers

Thanks Maria - makes me wonder how the TG5 would cope with the old Inon UWL-H100 I use for wide angle on the compact - i do have a 67mm to 52mm adapter lying around somewhere... 😄

The story, the story, the story... To offer a slightly differening opinion, I also think story-telling is sometimes going overboard in some cases, with the voiceover trend or over-dramatisation (recent BBC productions for instance, or more specifically the recent Netflix doc trends - on this, there is a very interesting snippet in Peter Rowlands' interview of Roger Horrocks in the latest issue of the UWP mag 142 btw). One question to ask, do we really need a story to enjoy watching wildlife? And what are the differences in expectations when watching edited footage of said wildlife? Do bird-watchers need to give their subject names, sound-effects and a dramatic storyline to enjoy watching birds be... birds? Observing wildlife in its natural environment is not really the same as watching a movie or TV series, which is indeed really telling a story (most of the time anyway 😅) We don't have to be making "art" to enjoy observing nature and documenting it as best as we can, and we don't necessarily need to add a extra scenaristic element to appreciate it. We sure can, but then is it really to complement the footage or because the footage itself is seen as not enough to be a appreciated on its own, as a well shot freestanding element, offering us a peek into something? In many ways, the animals themselves are the story, and tell a story through their behaviour, their interactions with their environment. Just like a good picture doesn't need a massive text explaining it to be enjoyed, I find that most of the time good naturalistic footage actually "speaks for itself", with very little explanation needed. The story is there, unfolding before your eyes. But yes, this is a naturalistic approach, more than an "artistic" one. And it's also a question of taste, sensitivites, interests, etc... Personally I dive to see the underwater world and its inhabitants. This is what drives me, and videography comes from a desire to document and somewhat preserve and extend this experience, more than by a drive to create "art" or express myself. However, it seems letting the the animals and/or the footage best speak for itself is not really the dominant trend at the moment - let's face it we live in a world where story-telling and branding (to which we could add selling?) are notions imbedded deep into our (sub)consciousness, and seen as the only way to keep our social-media-weary eyeballs focused (= engaged) for a few seconds more - just look at Netflix "natural history" docs (are blue chip productions going chocolate chip cookie on us?), Behind the Mask endeavours and quite a few of recent award-winning entries in uw video competitions - to quote Ridley Scott's Maximus, are you entertained? (remember to click like and subscribe!) Nothing that there's anything wrong with this of course, but let's say there are different cups of tea out there, eye of the beholder, all that... However, to return to the fold and agree with the above, yes for sure, naturalistic footage does need something of a backbone, structure, coherence to make the most of it, and also to make it palatable. And of course, if you really have something to say/show/tell, by all means, say it! Once it was all countryside here... And yes, it's true animal behaviour does sometimes need to be given context, to be explained to be better appreciated - fly-on-the-proverbial-wall footage from camera-traps can only go so far... But again, this contextualisation can be as simple as a title, it doesn't need to be a lyrical voice-over or an actual dramatisation following an invented animal protagonist... This little natural-history trick can get a little old (remember documentaries giving names to animals as we "follow them around on their adventure"?) And also, this necessary structural backbone can be a thoroughly planned shooting sessions to capture a specific behaviour or to showcase a specific element, but it can be found after shooting as we edit our clips to some sort of coherence. Nothing wrong with that. We don't need to all be diving/filming with a storyboard to fill... An intention (shooting to edit), sure, but this is a little different from following an actual script... To rebound on the Nick Hope long-scale documentary I mentioned above, I also really his "saturation" study. The structural backbone here is the attention given to colours and textures, which was most likely found at the editing desk rather than as a specific shooting project. To further flesh this idea out, ket's take the latest BBC Beneath The Waves Asia sequence on the moorish-idol spawning in Palau - Sir David Attenborough's unmistable narration gives us the context as the action unfolds: moorish idols in the Western pacific, aggregating on the reef before spawning, then leaving the reef to spawn while they are chased by grey reef sharks snapping away at the aggregation in blue water. The sequence then follows the build-up on the reef, the sharks waiting in the blue, the moorish idols shooting off the reef into the blue and the grey reefs chasing them, seen from above and underwater. Structurally, the sequence is articulated over 2 simple backbones: the voice-over giving us context, then the editing of the footage into a sequence following the chronological order of the action (which was planned in advance, as the sequence of events is actually already well-known and documented). The resulting sequence is quite condensed, as the actual build up at Blue Corner was actually over 3+ days, but the chase sequence they captured happened on a a specific day. It was not the only chase off the reef of course, but the actual spawning and chasing events all happened pretty much on the same day. This is a good example of animal behaviour being, in itself, the story. Sure, there are many editorial choices in structuring the sequence to illustrate the event, which we could call narration, but the focus is still primarily to document it, in a naturalistic way. The border between telling a story and documenting an event is sometimes thin - is a filmed sports competition telling any story other than that of itself? This might be a shocking comparison, but I love watching baitball footage, predation and other scenes for what they are. The story of life, telling itself as it unfolds. Well filmed and edited, of course... Back to the moorish idols, a still picture option might have been the fish shooting off the reef with the sharks in pursuit, or the sharks snapping at the ball of fleeing/spawing idols for instance, or the aggregations of moorish idols or sharks in the blue, chosen moments capturing a chosen aspect of the same story. Or, for a more abstract angle, a close-focus wide-angle shot of moorish idol eyes, for a slightly different artistic "take" on the event... While in this BBC video sequence the voice-over gives us the context, you can also find brillant examples of the same behaviour being captured by other videographers on youtube which no voice over, just a title / description, and which are also captivating imo... However, BBC logistics for capturing the chase (long multiple day shoots, with a diver on a rebreather on the reef, and camera-boat + following the action action-cam loaded floats) definitely has the edge, as they managed to capture a moment of the chase which is very difficult to see in water (most of the other footage is either drones or shot from the boat, as in local Blue Marlin diveshop's clips of the same chases, captured on the same days). To return to the original subject, this amazing sequence is less than 5 minutes long 😉

Good question - it really depends on the content - as a format I like short focused clips in the 30 seconds to 1 minute range, or well constructed videos in the 3-5 minute range, I certainly watch videos more than 5 minutes long, but then for me it has to have some kind of driving direction otherwise I tend to skim watch, or technical-watch (looking at the lighting, angles, grading etc) - having long been a culprit myself, I often find myself quite bored by slide-show type content (even by the masters of the form...), and skip drone work as a rule. For longer formats, I love naturalistic documentaries styles like Nick Hope's /Bubble Vision work This one is is almost 120 minutes long for instance, and certainly watchable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ncUVddkK3Q their are plenty of other reasons to go long, especially if you have something to say and document - but if it's to showcase underwater life in an area and the great footage you got of it, then around 5 minutes is generally enough. So in general I would say that for my attention span and interests short clips (vignettes, a minute max) or longer ones in the 3-5 minute range are really the sweet spot. But watching on a computer and not on a phone, and being allergic to talking-head videos on youtube, I'm probably not much of a reference as a viewer base... 😁 cheers ben

As a follow-up, as expected based on the graph the 3310 Flurofilter seems to be the closest yet to the UR-Pro Cyan. This would need to be confirmed by in-water testing, but results are pretty impressive on land, with the 3310 being potentially a little stronger Rosco 3310 and UR-Pro Cyan, side by side: UR-PRO Cyan Rosco 3310 Telemetry readout are virtually the same for these two 4K clips on the GoPro7: UR-Pro Cyan: ISO Shutter RGB Gains Rosco 3310 ISO Shutter RGB gains:

Gates housings typically used acrylic UR-Pro Cyan or Magenta filters, which are no longer manufactured but can still be found online (certain diameters at least). A good alternative for video - but not really similar as it is aiming for accurate colours rather than an aesthetically pleasing colour balance like the UR-Pro (or, to a certain extent, Canon colour balance...) would be the Keldan Spectrum filters, or certain Lee/Rosco gel alternatives Here's a thread on the subject: Keep in mind that shooting with a filter and lights will generate a light source unbalance (the "mixed light problem") which can be resolved with ambient (cooling) filters on the lights, but using these on 6000 lumen lights will halve transmission, turning them into 3000 lumen lights, so not really useful for anything else than closeups

Great stuff - currently drying out in cold Japan, I miss these guys 😍 Seems pretty consistent with what I saw on bonfires in neighbouring Amed before conditions broke down the last month or so. I see you're getting different handling of backscatter across shots, which I imagine must be from trying out different light placements. I found it was actually quite tricky to make out what works best on the spot, with sometimes surprising results in post - what worked out best for you in general? did you get any swarming on the lights or is it not much of an issue over deep water? Also, how was the AF with Sony 30mm? cheers cheers

Thanks Simon, this is very interesting - yes, the 90mm seems like it would be really tricky, despite having the fastest, video optimised AF of all the macro range, being a GM lens. On APS-C like the FX30 or a6700 it will be just too tight I think. For bw I was initially looking at the Zeiss Touit 50mm but alas, it's not optimised for video, which Zeiss considers unsupported "specialist applications" (so much for insects...). I'd also considered the Nikon 60 with adapter, but it's a no-go for video AF. And the Sony 50mm or 30mm macro are both supposed to very slow, unfortunately. Let me know how it goes with the 50mm and FX3 AF. For the time being, if i do manage to make the change to Sony (life is heavily in the way having just moved from Indonesia to Japan/Okinawa...), on APS-C I'm planning to try using the new Sony 16-50 kit lens (E PZ 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS II ). It's certainly not great but has supposedly been revamped for improved video support, including high frame rates, and stabilised, so could be interesting, combined with a smallish diopter on a flip. The 28-60mm lens with the WWL-1B sounds like an interesting solution! And it's great to know tracking toggle works for this - my main reason for moving to Sony is tracking AF (I usually shoot video in MF, but bonfire experiences in MF at 30fps have definitely sold me on AF to help follow critter movement 😅) Apparently the FX3, it's little sister the FX3 and the a6700 (along with most recent alpha cams) have a similar tracking AF, and an assignable toggle-on/off, which is a life saver! cheers