
Everything posted by bghazzal
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Supe V4Kv3 Underwater Video Light. Pros and Cons. Other alternatives?
Are you sure that Weefine or Kraken have constant output / discharge? I've been looking into this but cannot find any tests to back it up. edit - for Kraken I found manufacturer give output test data Thanks!
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Scamming Attempt
stay away, well away.... The "list" is at least partially a copy-paste of existing classified listings... The Nauticam/Panasonic LX10 with Dual Big Blue 15,000 Video Lights Complete System caught my eye as I've seen the listing on another forum. It was sold on June 3rd.... https://scubaboard.com/community/threads/nauticam-panasonic-lx10-with-dual-big-blue-15-000-lumen-complete-system.647094/ and the source of the Sony RX100VA with Nauticam housing and Z330 Strobes and WWL-C wide angle listing is here: https://scubaboard.com/community/threads/sony-rx100va-with-nauticam-housing-and-z330-strobes-and-wwl-c-wide-angle-2500.624506/ you get the drift....
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Mexico Underwater Camera "Tax" spread to Cancun
Not sure about that unfortunately - if you look at the 2019 document, wording is 16% tax on "photo and video recording equipment", and the allowance is, IIRC, one camera per traveller, meaning customs could likely consider the gopro or other action cams as a second camera should they wish to do so. They were probably focusing primarily on the most expensive items until now, but with action cam prices on the rise, and given how zealously the laws seemed to be applied given recent feedback (with reports of dive gear and golf clubs being taxed for instance) I wouldn't count on it if one is caught in the taxation whirlpool... But yes, best stay as inconspicuous as possible and hope for the green light...
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First time flying with camera gear, any tips or tricks?
I do the same, and have had to do it quite a few times actually, with my wife. Our strategy is actually 2 "fishing" / utility vests - can fit 6kg in each easily - when I was carrying the regs in carry-on (which I don't do anymore) I once had to place the two regs in the vest's zippered back pocket. Our strategy is to be nice and agreeable, show up early and be ready for action. 2 "personal items" (small back pack, computer), carryon backpack for my wife and super light 2 wheel roller for me. If we anticipate that it might be a tough check-in, we'll get the roller down to 7 kg, as this is the most commonly weighed carry-on, and check in with full-pockets. You get to know what to expect after a while, but there are always surprises. One notorious thing to look out for is the systematic weighing of rollers in Kuala Lumpur's Air Asia dedicated KLIA2 terminal (a special gate you go through) for instance. I always hand carry the roller in the queue and try to look comfy (rolling seems to increase attention and weight-checks). We check in the bags (as analog nomads without a home for a little under 10 years now, we're quite minimalist but with the dive gear, spares, pharmacy, tools and extra imaging stuff etc needed to live/work in remote areas like we have been doing we do have 3x 23kg check-in bags (2 120L Decathlon soft trekking bags, and one 100L), plus a lot of carryon (2 computers, camera, lenses, etc etc) If the carry-on is weighed, we step aside and proceed to fill the vests as much as possible. Also jacket pockets. No bum-bag but it sounds like a good idea. One idea I've been toying with is to strip the Nauticam compact housing of the tray, and a shoulder strap and carry it on me like a camera (with the camera inside), as it's quite heavy. After the great carry-on transfer, we proceed to re-weight, finish check-in then sit down somewhere and tranfer back to the carry-on. (re-weighing at the gate is rare on airlines we use - Jetstar is notorious, also for their food-hunt, as are some flights using small local planes in Indonesia, ATRs for instance) For the anecdote, last time we had to do the carryon-transfer was on our flight from Osaka in Japan to Guam and on to Palau, where we were going to work, in 2021. Very strict (which was rare in Osaka), and we almost missed the flight. But not because of luggage - carryon got weighed, we had to transfer and that solved it - but because they were afraid we would have entering Guam because regulation require a flight out, and they considered our ongoing flight to Palau was not a flight-out (because Palau is in Micronesia...) Despite explaining that Palau has been an independent country since 1994 and is not part of the Federated States of Micronesia, they wanted to take no chances of us being denied entry... We had to sign an form agreeing to uphold financial responsiblity for airfare if we were denied entry to Guam, and were allowed to board only at the very last minute... Just as cabin crew was about to prepare the plane for take off, someone hops on, moves to our row and tells us they reached Guam and it was confirmed it was ok (of course it was!) Gotta love Japan / flying and luggage.... š (as an epilogue, our immigration process in Guam consisted of the following exchange: "where are you guys off to?" - "just transitting two nights, then off to Palau for work" "oh Palau, very nice, enjoy!")...
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Mexico Underwater Camera "Tax" spread to Cancun
Unfortunately the print-out made by operators, which is probably the same as the one mentioned in the 2019 thread posted above, doesn't seem to have much effect. Camera in the housing might be a good idea - reading up officers had a tendency to consider housings as an extra camera - but if there are other accessories (lenses, domes, strobes, lights...) these can be subject to taxation as well. GoPro I guess you could keep in a jacket pocket somewhere? best of luck b
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Black-water video shooting techniques?
Regarding light positioning for black-water / bonfire type video, I've had some interesting info from Alexander Semenov, who shoots the amazing footage in the Aquatilis project Critters shot this way are mostly bigger than typical BW subjects, and setup primarily using is a triangular edge-lighting set up with wide, powerful lights. This is how he describes it, and helps shed a little light (pun) on the photos Davide posted earlier in the thread, which I'll repost below: "Two huge lights a bit behind the housing - you need to have triangular "dark zone" right in front of the port glass with no light at all and then set up the lights in a way that crossing of light beams will be just in a few cm closer to camera than focal plane. It's a bit tricky, but works like magic. And more light is always better."
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[4K] - Night Diving Off Vancouver Island
Lovely, great bunch of critters you have there, and a welcome change from the usual tropical-water suspects! The lumpsuckers are incredible - it might not be a highlight, but I really love the night shot of the school of Pacific herrings! cheers b
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Shooting action-cams with a "red" filter in flat profile, and manually white-balancing in post-production
Thanks Jochen, glad you find the discussion interesting! For the grey card, I would say yes, if you can be bothered to do it. It will be more precise, and having the same exact same reference (especially a good one like a wb card) on different clips make life easier in post. The only issue is that white balance is also relative to the distance to a subject, and you will be holding it at arm's length on a cam with a relatively wide lens, which might be a little close, but it still usually works quite well. And even if it doesn't, it's only one possible reference point. Since you'll be picking the WB setting point in post anyway, so if you find it doesn't work as well on a shot, you can always choose another one. I didn't carry a card for most of the GoPro footage I've shot, but found myself using mostly the same references in post for tropical ambient light, mostly: Other diver's tanks (works really well, especially aluminium tanks like AL80s), diver's bubbles, also the classical sand (sand can be a bit of a hit and miss depending on conditions and sand type), or bits of white rocks in the sand. Certain light skin tones / fin colours (white Gull fins...) can be good as well. If there is a reef, there's often a piece of bleached coral somewhere (tips) or other whitish elements in the substrate. But filming a proper WB card will help with consistancy - just film it a couple of second at the start like you said, holding the card as far as you can reach and in the direction of your shot and ideally with the sun in your back, like you would for manual white balancing. Looking forward to seeing the results. DaVinci is great for grading - if you put sufficient time learning to use it. I'd started working on it but unfortunately my current laptop isn't powerful enough to get fluid playback, even running from an external SSD and using proxies, whereas FCPX works fine natively that way. There was the option to edit in FCPX, export to DaVinci to grade, but with no fluid playback on DaVinci it's a nightmare. Planning on jumping in again when I have access to more processing power. cheers b
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Mexico Underwater Camera "Tax" spread to Cancun
Problem is it's not clear if actual corruption, or (over)zealous application of existing (but in this case, certainly questionable) laws... To give another non-tax related example, most non-US citizens have to purchase an ESTA to transit through the international area of any US based airport for instance - this is something which is rarely found elsewhere, when only switching planes and not leaving the international transit area (ie. not clearing immigration or customs). Yet this paying process is part of US regulations, and something travelers transiting through the international area of an airport on US soil have to comply with to switch planes in the USA. The ESTA is valid 3 years IIRC. Another example in Indonesia, this time: people planning to use their mobile phones in Indonesia for more than 90 days (tourists visas go up to 180 days) have to register their IMEI / phones at customs (phone is blocked beyond that) There is a $500 USD value-allowance for the phone. Beyond that, the phone is taxed, based on its value (looked up online). Taxation rate is 40% of the remaining value after being discounted $500 USD. People who have a residence permit and/or an Indonesian tax number ID (ie residents and Indonesian citizens) pay 30% instead of 40%. However, tourists / people staying less than 90 days in Indonesia can use their phones without registration (or tax payment), which constitutes both a free allowance and a grace period. Back to photo/video equipement, if you look at the 2019 WeP thread, you can see pictures of the import forms photographers were given, which look quite official normal (16% import tax for the import of "photo and video recording items) As a foreigner, it's generally quite difficult to file a complaint for corruption anywhere, but given the forms issued here, it seems very unlikely to lead to anything. What would be the base of the complaint other than one is not actually "importing" their personal equipment in this case? While there might certainly be some corruption and abuse of authority by customs officers, I'm suspecting that they're just being (over)zealous in this case, and that, as Chris suggested, existing, enforceable laws are actually in place. There's quite a lot of surveillance / security at major international airports, which tends to discourage basic, bill-in-hand type corruption. And previously mentioned, it's a general trend, and Mexican travellers entering their country are also getting hit pretty bad by the same regulations. The way out would be for the authorities to define / clarify the parameters for tourists, and set an allowance (based on value, visa type, time in the country, like in the Indonesian mobile phone example...) for personal goods to be used on a holiday in Mexico. But this would require pressure from Mexico's Secretariat of Tourism, and tourism operators... b
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Mexico Underwater Camera "Tax" spread to Cancun
I agree, but keep in mind it's not uncommon for "electronics" (computers, phones, cameras...) to be taxed differently (heavier) than sporting-goods. And things are changing, I don't know about bicycles, but there are reports of tourist's dive gear getting taxed on arrival , as well as golf-gear ( see this Reddit thread from two months ago, a tourist paid 19% import tax on his golf clubs in Cancun, for example) It's a general protectionist trend, and not really new (the BCS camera-tax became more systematic in 2019) When I was living/working in Mexico in 2018, importing dive equipment from the USA already incurred non-neglibeable customs duties (I remember being surprised by the amount when buying an SMB fron Jim Carter in Florida - free shipping to La Paz, but hefty import duties...). Beyond Mexico a couple of years back I sent back my (well-used) hiking shoes, from Japan to EU Europe and had to pay import tax (on my own used, personal goods, which had been bought in Europe, so tax paid...) The main issue I see here is taxation of tourists' personal, used gear (electronic or otherwise) which is to be used on a holiday and taken back out of the country on departure. This doesn't really make sense (as it is not an import per se) and is definitely detrimental to the country's tourism industry.
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Prescription Masks
Ooh that's very nice - it looks like height can be adjusted, which was my main issue with flip-mount options As previously mentioned and illustrated, I use cheap readers for macro, and they work great - but it's important for me to be able to adjust their position easily (bottom half of the mask when I'm spotting, right in the middle when I'm shooting). I have mine with a strap, but this looks like nice and solid alternative! However I use mine on my single glass frameless mask though, and these look like they're designed to make use of the frame on double-lense mask Great idea though. Keep readers close to the glass and it just... works
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Mexico Underwater Camera "Tax" spread to Cancun
It's a little bit more complicated than that. If you read up on this WeP thread and Scubaboard thread you'll see that some operators had actually created a printout in Spanish for divers to show at customs, and it wasn't much help. In 2019 customs were hitting divers with 16% of value for photographic items (housings, domes, strobes etc...). So far Quintana Roo wasn't concerned, it was mostly a Baja California Sur habit, but it seems to have spread first to DF and now Quintana Roo. I would recommend avoiding confrontational attitudes as much as possible in these kind of situations, do try to talk things out, but avoid confrontation, as customs agents have quite a bit of power, and xenophobia is growing in the global South as well... My Mexican friend almost ended up in a lockup for attempting corruption after offering to "even things out" with the customs officer - as is often done with authority figures in these kind of situations - so don't count too much on the power of well-earned (yankee) dollars š
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Mexico Underwater Camera "Tax" spread to Cancun
As a side-note, it's not just the camera tax - import (?) taxation and enforcement has generally become very severe recently and this encouraged governmental guidelines. I was taking to a Mexican friend about this a couple of months back, he had some pretty chilling experiences at Mexico city airport this year, travelling on a Mexican passport (not diving / camera related, but this does seem to be a general trend in the country - I'm not surprised it is spreading) Similarly, Indonesia introduced some pretty drastic customs measures for "passengers entering from abroad" this year (e.g. electronics: maximum 5 units and with maximum value FOB US$ 1,500; see details here ) but has since backtracked on these measures, which were unclear and doomed to cause chaos at airports...
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Black-water video shooting techniques?
I was shooting in MF and following with focus peaking - I switched on AF to see if it helped but given the chaos it was easier to track with peaking (which I don't have with AF, unless focus is locked) But once light position is set, it should be a question of keeping them in the light, like snooting a moving critter. But these are super fast indeed, and small... My main worry is actually that I might have bumped into the LX10's lens limitations when it comes to size/movement for video... Zooming-in, which I must do to get the proper magnification, works fine for filming tiny critters when they're stationary or slow, but when they're flying around like this, even if you keep them in focus long-enough, the speed of the background blur makes for an uncomfortable, sea-sickness inducing watch... It's something I noticed shooting during the day as well - I have some stable, in-focus shots of small fast moving critters that are not nice to watch because they're zoomed in, and you have a background like a fast-flowing river, which is not a pleasant watch... My hope for black-water is to try to isolate them more, so that the background is black, which might be a way to get around this issue. However, a major issue remains: the movement patterns of such tiny planktonic critters (which I believe are actually feeding in the light) is very erratic. During the day, the fast moving critters where moving in a relatively straight line, but these guys are way more random, which means more camera movement to follow. Unfortunately, even if the shot is stable and in focus, camera movement is amplified when zoomed in / long focal length, and not really nice. Solution would be not to zoom and use actual macro lens, but I can't on a compact... Tricky, tricky... Especially if i drop resolution to 1080p to get 60fps, meaning I can't plan on cropping in post... Filming fast movement zoomed-in is really my main concern at the moment, not sure if I can find some way to make it work for fast-moving tiny critters (other than focusing on slower / bigger ones, if they exists!) The subject-background-movement problem is one of those specific video-shooting issues, really marked for longer focal lengths / telephoto... You're right for the light position - I need to find a compromise between a workable focusing area to track the critters and isolating them more. Plan is to do some dry testing to see what the options are! cheers b
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Black-water video shooting techniques?
To illustrate this post, as it might be a little abstract, here is some rough footage of yesterday's chaotic "bonfire" swarm, showing what critters show up in only a couple of minutes... Nothing fancy but promising, and some interesting looking dudes, especially for ony a few minutes of testing in the water column... Certainly challenging, but also welcome change from what I've been shooting lately! - The first shot is swarm building up around 2 dive lights (roughly only 1000 lm in total) in the sand, after maybe 2 or 3 minutes or so only. Rest is the chaos around the camera when using my main camera mounted light as the lure (which made life difficult, as the swarm was on me, rather than me coming up to the swarm... Nothing is great, and it was difficult to isolate subjects in the swarm and get/keep them in focus, and their speed means that 60fps slow-motion would be in order rather than the 30fps I'm shooting in here (1080p it will have to be...), but I kind of also like the chaotic energy these tiny critters have. It could be fun slowed-down quite a bit... Regarding light position, looking at last night's footage, more frontal lighting lights up more backscatter, which in the darkness gives a dark-green particle hue. It's ok, but I can tell which shots are top-down and which ones are more frontal, and top down is cleaner. To work on light position and focal, I'm thinking of doing some dry tests by creating a small mobile with bits of transparent plastic hanging from a fishing line. Plan would be shoot this contraption in the darkness with a fan on to generate movement, see what works best, so there's a little less to figure out in-situ. cheers! ben
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Black-water video shooting techniques?
As an update, I finally got to try out a little āblack-waterā video. Not sure the name is really appropriate, as what Iām going for is not a open-ocean deep-water lights on a line config, but rather a type of ābonfireā dive, i.e. a relatively night dive where you focus on small larval/ planktonic critters in the water column, attracted by the lights. As such, the dive is actually done in the shallows, but hovering in the water-column instead of staying on the sand, and while the water certainly is black, it's is more of a water-column macro night dive than a glide over the cold abyss... It might not sound as adventurous or exciting but logistics are way easier, budget-friendly, and I currently have the chance of diving on outskirts the Lombok Strait , which is extremely an extremely rich, deep through-flow environment. Also there's quite a learning curve for shooting black-water video, and I'm happy to work on figuring things out this way before committing to much more expensive true black-water logistics... The general idea is the same, lure lights to attract critters, and waiting for the food chain to reconstruct itself around these lure lights. First impressions is that itās definitely possible, and a welcome change from the usual critters, but there's a lot of experimenting to be done to get some nice video footage. As I didnāt set out to do a full black-water type dive (and my wife was busy calling spotting in the sand and calling me for funky cephalopods, frogfish etc), so didn't spend the full dive on it (and kept changing light positions and settings). The plan next time is to focus on water-column critters only, to try and figure things out. I didnāt try tying lights to a deeper mooring, as I'd said I would in the thread above, and instead just hung around at 15m on the slope facing the channel. We'd missed the new-moon, but night was still quite dark yesterday (waxing gibbous moon), and a lot of stuff in the water. I tried two things, just waiting for the swarm to form itself around my cameraās lights, and the other, placing a small (tiny) lure light in the sand for a few minutes. Please note that I have nowhere near as much power as what is typically used for these types of dives ā Iād emailed NAD Lembehās Simon Buxton to ask for more info on the logistics of their bonfire dives and didnāt get anwer, but from what I gather they have a setup in the hundred-thousands + of lumen, assembling a large bunch of old video lights. I was on a much more modest 4300 lumen video light on camera, two 800 lumens\ and 1000 lumen dive light, but even with this ridiculously small amount of light, itās amazing how much critters this can attract in this area. Still, I came back excited by the potential, and also with more questions than answers, so theyāll have to be a lot of trial-and-error before I can get proper video footage... Since this is a work-in-progress and I believe in sharing info, Iāll share some of these raw first observations and interrogations here. As a reminder, this thread is on black-water video rather than stills, as there are very specific issues when trying to capture moving-pictures of small critters in open water, rather than freezing their movement. Video lighting - First basic observation is that well, continuous lighting of small fast-moving critters in a black water column isnāt easy, as itās difficult to get a good reference point to best position the light(s)... - Because of this, practical and efficient video light positioning isnāt super clear ā I used the MW4300 as a main central light and two weaker lights on both sides, as I usually do for macro. This lightbox type config (weaker lights on the side, in earmuff position) seems to work well for following focus (peaking), but for the main light, it wasnāt clear if frontal was more efficient/practical than top-down... - For the main light source, it's not clear if a wider beam is preferable to a narrower beam (the MW4300 has wide and macro spot) ā a narrower beam would make it easier to isolate a critter from the swarm, but speed of movement makes it more difficult to track. A wider-beam is more flexible, but the swarm is much more present, and this is not practical if the lure light is the cameras. - How much light power is really required to shoot these small, mostly transparent critters? - The swarm groups around and follows the strongest light source. This is connected to the āhow much lightā question above, but if the shooting video light is stronger than the lure light, the swarm will reform around the camera's shooting light. This is something to be wary of, for people with minimal lure lights... If the swarm forms around the camera's main light, shooting critters in the swarm around the camera is not practical (too close, and too dense to isolate a critter, since the swarm follows the main light) But maybe itās possible to shoot with less light on camera, I could perhaps work with a narrow-beam snoot light and use my primary 4300 lm video light as a lure, detaching it from the camera⦠Or maybe th MW4300 lightās narrow beam be used to follow critters without attracting as many critters as the lightās wide mode? Lens / focal / diopter - it's not super clear what lens works best ā I was shooting with an Inon UCL165 +6 diopter, but wonder if a +12 / +15 might not be better. Big issue, when a critter is not fully isolated against a black background, is background movement speed. Zoomed in and following a small critter, the speed of background-movement (which in my camera-light-as-lure-light situation are all the other critters) is quite disturbing. But it's difficult to get enough magnification without zooming in⦠So maybe a half-zoomed stronger diopter? Hmm... Lure-light setup - Suspended light (facing down) or in the sand facing up? Not commiting fully to water-column shooting, I didnāt try the suspended version (hanging lights on a deep mooring line, roughly at 15m depth), but placing the light in the sand in the "bonfire" config results in an upwards-shooting beam of light, which could be more problematic than a downwards facing one - this is something to check, as it might depend on lure-light power (maybe it's possible to stay on the side of the "bonfire" of lure lights and follow interesting subjects around) Framerate This is a purely LX10 / compact issue, but I donāt have 4K 60fps ā while I donāt usually slow down footage, the speed of these critters makes it necessary, to really get to see the movement, and extend the encounter⦠For me, getting 60fps means dropping down video quality to 1080p, unfortunately⦠But given the speed of the critters, maybe 120fps āhigh speed videoā might even be worth it⦠Other observations - I was afraid that I would be attracting lots of lionfish, but in the open water column this seems ok, none showed up, whereas they often get close to hunt near the light when shooting close to the sand Anyway, more questions than answers for now, and lots to dig into... cheers ben
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1" ball clamps
Agree with all the above. And keep in mind that all "cheaper" clamps are not made equal. Speaking from experience, do stay away from non-branded generic products. The alloys (?) / material and sheer design of the super-cheap generic ones will lead problems after a while (corrosion, fusion of screw / washer elements etc) as they are not made of the proper material for salt-water use. Be very very careful with these, wash, vinegar, lubricate (WD40) regularly and never ever leave them tightened for extended periods of time (or you might have to hacksaw it...) Overall, best stay away unless you're ok with "disposable" clamps for experimenting / testing your setup (especially floats), and then get properly made ones as soon as that's settled. What you can also do is stay away from the cheapest-generic ones and get intermediate branded ones like Kraken, Weefine, Big Blue, Carbonarm instead... These might not be as solid as ULCS or Nauticam, but are roughly half the price, design is coherent, and they offer options sometimes not available in Nauticam (open clamps, especially 4 or 3 ball open-ended clamps, which are super useful for some applications...). If necessary, you can upgrade these gradually once your kit is set. That said, carbon-fiber floatation arms don't seem to have the same issues. I've been using a Puluz 900gm float and other generic floats for a few years now and they're perfectly fine. There are no-moving parts, and other than the rubber ring wearing down (you get spares with Puluz) especially when usign open-clamps, there have been no issues whatsoever with the carbon arms (cracks, etc) - as new. So this piece of kit might not be as critical. Just look for proper buoyancy data and brands that label their products (Puluz does), as most online vendors will have no clue as to what they are selling... cheers ben
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UR-Pro filters info?
SUMMARY Returning to the filtering / transmission info we now have on the UR-Pro Cyan filter, we can try to summarize the data as is: - In terms of spectrum, the UR-Pro Cyan does indeed function like fluorofilter, with a similar profile. The filter blocks the UV spectrum, and strongly restricts cyan to green transmission, while maintaining a medium transmission of dark/purple blues, and strong transmission of orange/red wavelengths, thus having a marked warming effect and smoothing spectrum alterations of ambient light in blue water (which helps the camera white balance). Practically, the working result is that UR-Pro Cyan preserves some deep blues for the water column, while nudging the cyan/green cast to a warmer yellow-orange tones, which gives a good base for colour grading to aesthetically pleasing results. In this, it is not the most colour-accurate (the Keldan Spectrum filter is clearly more accurate), but is nonethless great and very practical for underwater video use (which explains its popularity). - The UR-Pro Cyan induces a general light loss in the roughly -1.6 to -2 stop / Ev range (being a colour filter, this is also relative to wavelength transmission, as discussed here) - Physically, the UR-Pro Cyan was made of acrylic or glass (not gel), with an orange to reddish tint, and was the steepness of the curve seems to indicate that it was an optical grade filter. If we take the available transmission data from the filter patent and order it on the wavelength/colour spectrum, we end up the following: UR-PRO CYAN FILTER WAVELENGTH TO TRANSMISSION, MAIN DATA POINTS Below 370 nm: 0% UV ULTRAVIOLET: BELOW 400 nm Below 400 nm: 25% VIOLET: 400-450 nm Below 410 nm: 27% Below 450 nm: 12% BLUE: 450-500 nm Below 470 nm: 8% Below 500 nm: 4% CYAN: 500-550 nm Below 520 nm: 7% Below 550 nm: 18% GREEN: 550-580nm Below 570 nm: 50% YELLOW: 580 - 600 nm Below 600 nm: 87% ORANGE: 600 - 650 nm Below 700 nm: 90% RED: 650 - 700 nm - We are also given a rough visual representation of the UR-Pro Cyan filter's transmission curve, which can be rendered as is on the wavelength spectrum: UR-PRO CYAN FILTER SPECTRUM TRANSMISSION CURVE - Combining these data sets, we can add the following projections for wavelength transmission cut-off (known data point are in bold type, projections are in italic type) UR-PRO WAVELENGTH TO TRANSMISSION, KNOWN DATA POINTS AND PROJECTIONS ALTERNATIVES In terms of possible alternatives, there seems to be a marked difference between optical grade photographic filters, which have might tighter, precise cut-off points, and design specificities like fully cutting off the UV spectrum, and lighting filter gels, which have a more sloped curve, with less marked cut-off points. - A relatively cheap and somewhat more accessible option would be to combine existing lighting gels such as fluorescent filters (FL) / orange colour temperature adjustment filters (CTO), or orange to pale red colour conversion filters (CC), with a UV blocking filter to steepen the curve. This seems promising, as illustrated above. However, one thing to look out for when combining lighting gels would be light exposure / stop loss. A loss -3 stops / Ev would be a reasonable limit. For smaller sensor cams like action cams, it would be best to stay in the -1.5 to -2 Ev / stop range, as anything stronger would introduce to much noise when shooting in ambient light. Some options to look into would be Lee and Rosco filters, such as the (discontinued...) Lee Pale Red 166 combined with the Lee 266 UV, or the Rosco Cinegel 3310 Fluorofilter, or other CTO / CC filters of their respective ranges (Rosco 166 Pale Red, Roscolux and Cinegel CTOs, etc.) - Another option would be to look into existing optical grade filters for photography (color correction, fluorescent filters, such as the Tiffen 47B filter for example) or those designed for other optical applications (microscopy, astronomy...). These would require no additional UV filters, but these will usually be in glass form, so less flexible, and more expensive. - Lastly, there would be the option of trying to tweak existing photo filter gels (Magic Filter or Keldan) to bring them closer to the UR-Pro Cyan, combining them with a minus green lighting gel for instance. From my tests on grading flat action-cam footage, Magic Filter's handling of magenta (inverted, when to other filters) is problematic at depth for my video grading use (more details here and here) but a filter like the Keldan Spectrum SF-1.5, combined with a gel giving it a bit more "bite" (a minus green gel?) seems like a promising base for experimentation. cheers! ben
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Autofocus For Video: What's Your Take?
Thanks for sharing this, really interesting. AF is doing a great job at staying on the crab and ignoring the smaller shrimps and bigger clownfish. However at 53 seconds in it loses focus as the crab is moving to top left of the frame, and regains focus when the camera moves in. Same at 1:56, would you know what is going on here? In the first instance, it looked a bit like the crab has reached the dof limit, but seems too shallow for this critter size - for the last one I'm wondering if AF is confused by camera movement? It almost looks like there's a weak artificial light source at the begining (I'm guessing it's sunlight), so I'm wondering if it's actually changes in illumination angles that throw it off balance twice. Do you think using a video light would have helped the AF lock-in on the crab by increasing contrast data? Anyway, itās very interesting to see AF in action, doing a good job 5 years ago already.
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GoPro dethroned. Is Insta360 Ace Pro the new king of action cameras?
from no-picture=didn't-happen to I-think-this-happened=picture š
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Panasonic Lumix GH7
IIRC the Nauticam GH6 housing works for the GH7.
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GoPro dethroned. Is Insta360 Ace Pro the new king of action cameras?
Wow - AI augmented footage, or to quote the article Imax will "utilize its AI algorithm to explode the images". Boom š£ The revolution is well underway - guess we can go soon go back to shooting in 1080p and let AI do the rest (including bringing bleached coral back to life and turning that trout into a bull-shark perhaps?). It will be interesting to see how we transition from capturing reality as best as we can to generating a computer-assisted reality we like better (and if we go all Black-Mirror, eventually choosing to see, inhabit and intereact in some sort of filtered and customized enhanced reality ).
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Autofocus For Video: What's Your Take?
Perhaps ā in this type of scenario, where youāre following fast moving medium-sized action, not having to worry about focusing would certainly be a relief, but Iām also not convinced results would be that different. It would for sure make life easier if it works, but I think there might also be a risk of AF loss and tracking when the subject is out of the frame / lighting - which is bound to happen at some point - in which case staying focus-locked-in might actually be easier. Hard to tell ā I know on my cam it wouldnāt work, but if Sony AF is as good for video as it is for stills, it could be very nice indeed in some cases! I chose this specific example as it was technically more challenging because of the fast moving of medium sized subjects, with little time to adjust. This might sound a little paradoxical, but for smaller macro to supermacro subjects I find it somewhat easier (MF examples of all sizes here or here). Based on my experience and the setup I use, but in the 10mm to 5mm critter size-range and below, depth of field gets so shallow that AF doesn't have much to offer. You basically have to move (nudge) the camera if the critter moves out, thereās just not enough range to focus-follow. But for fast-moving middle-range subjects (which are not that common actually), and also more tricky applications like small subjects free-swimming in the water column (black-water beckons...), I can definitely see the appeal of fast and efficient AF tracking. Tricky enough following the show and being stable! š Bring back 80s home-video zoom-shots! š Joke aside, I agree, it would be great to have some illustrations of latest AF tracking-technology being put to good use for underwater video. Animal-eye AF on the eye of fish moving in a school would be amazing, and I would love to have access to the extended-range / helping hand an efficient Sony AF system could give if it works as it's rumored to. AF seems like a no-brainer for stills, since you are effectively freezing the movement, but for video nailing the 10-seconds-minimum of focused, stable footage required for moving pictures ofen requires a different type of control over the camera. Really curious as to how others approach the issue and what works best for them.
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UR-Pro filters info?
As a follow-up to the Ultimate Filter Quest, the Rosco Cinegel 3310 Fluorofilter also seems like a good base for UR-Pro cyan recreation. Here are the specs: UR-Pro Curve is close ā however a major difference I see with the Cinegel 3310 (as with the Lee Pale Red) is UV transmission. The UR-Pro cuts transmission below 370 nm to 0% helping with the strong blue/magenta cast we have underwater. Transmission of the greens, which is another big cast-generating headache underwater is down to 4% at 500 nm, so the UR curve is a bit sharper. I think combining the Cinegel 3310 with a UV filter gel (something with less than 50% transmission at 410 nm dropping to 0% at 350 nm or so, similar to the Lee CL 226 UV) should help with this as well, and give very close results.
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GoPro dethroned. Is Insta360 Ace Pro the new king of action cameras?
Wow, indeed - I wasnāt aware DJI had a cine-cam range... š This is good, as there is an in-house link to more professional applications, spanning beyond that of the stereotypical action cam user-base. Let's see if this feeds into their action range. Professional productions use action cams as backups, B/C cams and for dedicated application (the BBC /blue planet crew I saw in Palau in 2023 had GoPros setup for certain boat mounted angles, I think it was the GP5 and GP9), so DJI might be on to something if they ease up on the be-a-hero pov immersive-social-media angle and offer a more-rounded ārough-camā⦠That said, regarding sensor-size/focus Iām a little worried at how workeable AF would be on such a cam underwater (particlesā¦) ā seems perfect for correctly tracking a ātalking headā like in the Insta360 clip, but it could also mean trouble in our less than ideal underwater conditionsā¦