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Interceptor121 85 Posted yesterday at 01:09 PM · IP I think this kind of solution is expensive and not effective In many cases poor performance is due to lenses focussing too far requiring domes too large or even more common incorrect calculations of the position of the dome I have not had an issue with edges moving from MFT to full frame the key is to choose the right lens Quote TimG 390 Posted yesterday at 01:47 PM · IP I've got no personal experience of the S&S but I seem to remember a number of folks using them and being happy with the results especially, if I recall right, using lenses like the Nikkor F 16-35 and Z 14-30. Good though you've had no issues. Good choice on those lenses! Quote Phil Rudin 69 Posted 1 hour ago · IP I agree with 121 that proper port size and extension length are required for best corner results and of course full frame suffers more than sub full frame given the same F/number. However I have done a number of tests using like equipment, example Tamron 17-28mm and Sony FE 16-35mm PZ in 180mm dome with and without the S&S conversion lens and the S&S always bests the native lens by at least one stop. I have also used the S&S lens on fixed lenses like Zeiss Batis 18mm with similar results. I also agree with 121 bout minimum focus the Sony 16-35 PZ minimum is 24cm, Tamron 17-28 is 19cm and the Sigma 17mm F/4 has a minimum focus of 12cm. For wide rectilinear I would chose the Sigma 17mm over the other two even without the S&S because of the close focus. It is outstanding in a 180mm port but I have also used it in a 140mm port because it can focus closer than most fisheye lenses. To get a one stop increase for $600.00ish is the question and it appears that several have found this worth the cost especially if the alternative is an expensive water contact lens. The second issue is if you are on team rectilinear or on team fisheye. Many would rather just go fisheye to reduce corner issues. Image is the Sigma 17mm F/4 in the 140mm dome port at F/11 with the port glass touching the pool light glass, A/V light. Quote

Hey mandab! Welcome to Waterpixels. Excellent to have you with us. I can quite understand that move to Oz......

With the news that the S&S correction lens may be staging a come back, @Phil Rudin suggested we start a thread for it. Good idea, Phil!

Guys - I've set up a thread for this now......

HI awe. Welcome to Waterpixels! We hope you really like this new forum.

I've got no personal experience of the S&S but I seem to remember a number of folks using them and being happy with the results especially, if I recall right, using lenses like the Nikkor F 16-35 and Z 14-30. Good though you've had no issues. Good choice on those lenses!

Thanks for posting that, Ido. Good to know. I'm sure there are a few folks who would be inserted to know when the lens becomes available again.

Yep, as Barmaglot says, don’t! It’s unusual for an u/w image to look seriously fisheyed - unlike a topside shot. You use the FE to get close but also to provide wide at the same time. I think it’d be pretty rare that you’d want to lose that.

Hey Simon Excellent to have you with us. Welcome! I'm sure you will see lots of familiar name short from Wetpixel.

Hey John Great to have you with us. Welcome to Waterpixels! We hope you really enjoy the site. Tim

I had the same thought. Macro lenses are ideal in conditions of poor visibility. You are usually shooting something only inches from the port so viz is, generally, not an issue. This arrowcrab was shot in awful conditions using a 105mm lens

I would not have thought so. Great for over/unders!

Chris is right on the issue of which carrier you use. Often using a low-cost airline is not, err, low cost. So many add-ons. We've had really good experiences with Air France, KLM and Emirates. Yeah, they cost more but when you start adding in the add-on charges that low-cost carriers raise, the different shrinks rapidly and allowances for baggage increase.

Welcome, Jack! Great to have you with us. And congrats on the retirement. I hope it's very long and very happy.

Monkeybusiness! Welcome. Great to have you with us. We hope you really enjoy Waterpixels.

Tough choice! I think it's important you go where your heart takes you otherwise you end up hankering for something that you didn't get. And that's disappointing and detracts from the pleasure. That said.... macro isn't an issue on FF or APS-C. But as you have probably read ad nauseam, wide-angle is a different animal and housing FF lenses is more expensive, bigger and heavier. lThere is no FF equivalent to the Tokina 10-17mm. The 8-15 is the nearest thing but if the Canon version is the same as the Nikon (which I have), it's not a zoom in practical use on an FF body: it's two lenses - a 15mm FE and a circular 8mm FE. Almost counter intuitively, the 8-15 is great on an APS-C body and does give zoom range! As you may have read though, it's doubtful that with the huge difference in price its worth buying the 8-15 for APS-C. (Alex Mustard did a review of this with Adam Hanlon a couple of years ago). If you mainly look at your pics online and do the occasional print up to A3, I'd argue that APS-C is the way to go: price, convenience, transportability.... ...... but then there is the heart issue. Will you always regret not getting an FF body? If it's any help, I went through the same dilemma when I sold my Nikon D300. I wanted FF and got the Nikon D800 with all the bells and whistles involved in housing FF WA lenses. I can't say I regretted it but my partner gave me endless stick about the amount of gear I was now transporting - and that was indeed a pain. After a few years I went back to APS-C with a Nikon D500. No regrets at all. And I use the Tokina 10-17 and the Nikon 8-15mm.

Hey gremlin! Welcome to Waterpixels. I love the 80/80. Count me in on that one - although I'd go for 90/90 😆

They used to be a regular and reliable feature on a dusk dive on the Tanjung Kuso Kuso dive site in the Lembeh Straits. I don't know though if they are still around.

Hi IndoDiver! Great to have you with us on Waterpixels. A warm welcome.

Hey Dan! Welcome to Waterpixels - great to have you with us. USVI eh? Nice! Good for you - I'm jealous!

Sold! Thanks, Mike. Have fun with it!

It should be much better, Ido.