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On a side note: I thought the quote was from "The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!" movie with Leslie Nilsen or a similar absurd comic movie. Then I discovered that the original line is much much older. Sorry for hijacking the thread 😇

Hey, is that a dome in your pants or are you just happy to see me? [cit.] 🤣

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Water refractive index.

This guys has been posting for a while, macro and BW photos shot with a GH7: https://www.facebook.com/groups/216446581877881/user/591319383

Gopro 13 underwater Review by Backscatter Edit: there are some important mentions about focus peaking (useless uw) battery life and filters.

This is true to some extent. This was the main driver for the development of these technologies, the most immediate use. But there are much more creative applications. Again from the second part of article I had linked in another thread: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0681063194/computational-photography-part-ii-computational-sensors-and-optics This technology is already being used. It is the one that allows you to blur in post parts of the image. Combined with other AI devilry is what allows Davinci Resolve to mimic different lenses in post. Not perfect abut It already works, and with the speed at which these things are going (just remember what was DALL-E one year ago) I can imagine what's possible in a couple of years. Then I am not a photographer but there are several features in Photoshop that allow similar things. Here I take up a somewhat crazy post on another forum. https://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/88008-the-camera-of-the-future-is-not-full-frame-with-a-prime-lens/ The concept is: For ergonomic reasons, cameras will remain among us with similar shapes and sizes and will never be replaced by a smartphone. These cameras will have technology similar to what is implemented on smartphones that will allow you to have a single lens and decide what lens to use, which film emulation and other parameters in post production. Quoting the computational photography article I linked: So if we already have all these features in our smartphones with tiny little sensors, imagine what I could achieve with a proper camera. Why not? And here we arrive to you second statement: Yes, thay have a monopoly of a shrinking market so they have no incentive to push things forward with tech that they don't control. So IMHO a real change can only come from an external actor. Certainly not one from a more profitable market such as the smartphone market. That's why I was giving the example of Apple. This company had never produced a phone but was a leader in designing computers that are in everyday use and had the genius to think outside the box. How it ended up we all know. That is why in the previous post I was referring to DJI. This company has all the cards to accomplish something similar. It is a world leader in the drone market. These flying things incorporate several completely different technologies: Photography and video flight systems sensors telecommunications Today a drone is a super concentrate of integrated technology. Leveraging their knowledge in different fields, they have been entering “adjacent” markets for years with excellent results: Their camera gimbals are among the most widely used by professionals in the industry Their LIDAR focus systems for cameras and manual lenses are the most advanced in the world and are used by professionals along with their gimbals. One of their very strange cameras is beginning to be used in blockbuster film. Their remote image control systems have become among the best in the film industry. Their action cameras in just a few iterations have reached and surpassed Gopro levels. The Osmo Pocket is one of the most incredible projects of recent times. Their strength lies in integration. You have a DJI wireless microphone? you connect it via BT with one click with all their products. All of this where in 2024 we, 90% of mirrorless users, consider it normal that the only reliable way to download photos and videos from our camera, is to physically remove the card and insert it into a special reader. Ciao

great report and beautiful photos as usual.

I think your diving conditions are similar to what we have here, so I understand you. My GH5 at 17 meters is pretty much at the limit and I don't think a gopro can do any better in the Mediterranean. So okay. You need to add a small 20 cm arm. All you need is a flexible arm on which to attach some Stix to compensate for the weight of the light. You need to move the light away. One light is usually not enough. I disagree with that. A kit like this, with the arms or a folded arm takes up zero space and you hang it with a paracord and boltsnap from a jacket d-ring. For me too 😄😄😄

You use Davinci Resolve and anyway an underwater video must be color corrected/graded hence I would try: White balance : native color: flat Regarding the light position... hummm. A front facing light and so near to the lens is going to give you a lot of backscatter. P.S. Don't forget to try the BGULDS Filter 😉

Welcome aboard Nando! the legion of action cameras is growing 😎

It doesn't seem a serious scratch. Now you have two lens so just try to polish the scratch with Novus. You could print a cap for yourself or just trying to find a kitchen cap of the right measure...

How nice to see threads derailed like driverless trains! But then again, we are on general chat and so as the next round of beers arrives I say my two cents. 🍻 I totally get it! When we talk about smartphones and cameras, we always end up comparing them to good vs. evil, matter vs. antimatter, and so on. What I really meant was the technology inside smartphones, not smartphone itself. So, let's start with the data: Research and development are directly proportional to the numbers in the market in which you operate, and the numbers we saw in the first post are merciless. The technology supporting the photo/video/audio/connectivity department of a smartphone is years ahead of a mirrorless camera. It's only a matter of time before some of the amazing technology developed for smartphones makes its way into the photography market of yesteryear. I'm not sure exactly how, who, or when it will happen, but I'm excited to see what the future holds! These are the data. From these I can only speculate. A market leader, they usually have no reason to change things; on the contrary, they try hard to maintain their monopoly. They act like incumbents. Just think how late Canon, Nikon & co. embraced mirrorless technology and, once they did, how quickly they are saturating the market. Vice versa, those who want to enter or gain market share have every interest in shuffling the cards with innovations. Staying in the photographic sector, the first real mirrorless with interchangeable lenses was the Lumix G1 in 2008 (formally the Epson and Leica). Panasonic never had big numbers in the photographic market. Sony, another company that did not have large shares at the time, was the one that contributed the most to its spread among professionals with the A7 in 2013. But perhaps the most striking example of an outsider overtaking you on the right is Apple in the world of telephony. None of Apple's current competitors in smartphones existed before the invention of the iphone. Look what happened to Nokia ⚰️ A company must enter and disrupt from the outside. Current camera manufacturers are only capable of repeating themselves and innovating with the dropper. It is in the nature of things. It's so important for a company to enter and disrupt from the outside. It's a shame, but current camera manufacturers are only capable of repeating themselves and innovating with the dropper. It's just the way things are! It's a bummer, but it's tough for a big company in the smartphone game to want to sink their money into a tiny market like photography. Maybe it's the opposite! Samsung made some pretty cool mirrorless cameras that were ahead of their time. But then, without any warning, they left the photography market. The whole photography division was moved to the mobile division, which is a much more lucrative market. In my opinion, and this is just a fantasy, one company that would be perfect for shaking things up is DJI. But beer has arrived and we'll talk about that later 🍺

We have discussed AOI action camera lenses many times, but let's not forget that INON was the first to develop an entire set of professional accessories for their underwater use. A press release from INON has just come out confirming that their entire line of accessories is fully compatible with the new GoPro 13. The thing I really appreciate about INON is that they give full instructions on using their lenses with the GoPro's endless shooting and photography modes (FOV).

Yes, from what I read an Action 5 pro has the same runtime of a gopro 11 + digipower. Unbelievable! P.S. I would like to have a Digipower for the DJI Osmo Action 5 pro 😄

Yes of course. Didi you read my old thread on this topic? We linked it already. https://waterpixels.net/forums/topic/616-inon-and-aoi-wide-angle-wet-lenses-for-gopros/?do=findComment&comment=3616 and https://waterpixels.net/forums/topic/616-inon-and-aoi-wide-angle-wet-lenses-for-gopros/page/2/#comment-2924 Basically you need: a 52mm screw adapter for the gopro lens. a 52mm screw adapter for the AOI lens. some DIY skill to modify the gopro lens screw adapter * The 52mm gopro lens screw adapter holds onto the gopro lens cover with a small hexagonal screw. My adapter had two holes, and I fitted an extra screw. The lens is very heavy and when you mount everything, the weight tends to pull off the gopro lens cover with great risk. Sometimes it doesn't come off but the lens cover loses water resistance under the weight of the lens. The only solution is to handle it with extreme care. The AOI lens is a wet lens so I drilled two 1mm small holes to facilitate water leakage between the lens and the screw adapter and then covered it with tape because I was afraid of light penetration. There is no vignetting in the water. Later I also added an additional ring to distance the lens and lens cover from the gopro to try to solve some strange problems I was experiencing. It's all written in the thread. I could never figure out what the source of the problem was. This year if I try again, I will try to make with a 3D printer a standard bayonet mount to use directly with the Digipower and eliminate the screw mount which is very delicate.

If huge depth of filed is your goal then the classic AOI UWL 03 (or Inon equivalent) is your friend. My experiments with trouts show that you get objects in focus nearly on lens dome with exceptional quality. @Nikolausz YT channel has several examples of what you can achieve with it. ciao

Very serious! You are condemned to Dante's circle of videographers!

Looking at the social channels of AOI ambassadors/influencers, nothing has come out yet. I saw that they are all cruising with Gopro13, AOI housing and maybe Pro lens. I guess something will come out in the next few days. https://www.facebook.com/KBurn

Naaaaaaaa I can't believe it 😁 You are right: I tested the pump alone but I didn't try the wine cap!!! This should do by default into the DIY section!!!

Wow! I have to check if it is in Europe. Just think, I broke the Nauticam pump last month and was scared when I read the price. So I looked for a replacement and the first clue was the wine pump. however, I looked directly in the kitchen drawer (I have two) only to find that they have a different diameter. But I wasn't brave enough to look online. i thought it was a standard. I got the rubber part cut off. So finally I glued it with a cyanoacrylate glue specifically for plastic and then covered it with Kintsuglue (Sugru). So far it's working. In fact, I think a package of Sugru or Kintsuglue is essential in the spare kit. On a liveaboard, a friend of mine was able to repair a broken Scubapro frameless mask with Sugru. Ugly but it works

We spoke about it on another thread I link here. Long story short: computational photography is here to stay and camera manufacturers are really behind even if some features make a timid appearance. As much as the marketing of the photography market would have you believe otherwise, the features of a top-of-the-line mirrorless camera are ridiculous compared to a mid-range smartphone, but the price of a mirrorless camera is at least 5 times higher. In another forum there was a very heated discussion about these numbers. Basically the question is, if the numbers are so merciless, why don't camera manufacturers use the same hardware platforms used in phones, thus counting on an economy of scale? If you search the net, the question has been asked dozens of times and the answer is not obvious. When it comes to smartphones, many people confuse the operating system (Android, IOS) with the hardware platform (Snapdragon, Tensor, and A15), and the answers are completely wrong.

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Just think that just two days ago I got my hands on a photo book by Fosco Maraini who in 1954 photographed and described for the first time the AMAs, the Japanese women pearl fishers. So when I saw the photos of the fishermen, I thought back to the book.