Stroboscope mode with SMART triggers!

[TURTLE-Balage]

Happy New Year to everyone!
This year, we aim to dedicate more time to addressing technical questions. As part of this effort, we’ve written a brief description of a feature available in the TURTLE SMART Nikon and Sony versions.
Take a look, and feel free to reach out if you have any questions! 🙂 

https://www.trt-electronics.com/blog/stroboscope-mode-with-smart-triggers/70/


 

[Adventurer]

Interesting Balage, two questions:

 

1.) After setting this up via the computer you are stuck in strobo mode for the whole dive until you connect it to USB PC/MAX again and edit it ?

 

2.) As a Canon user, any chance this is also coming / available for the e-TURTLE  2 MANUAL trigger ?

[TURTLE-Balage]

Hello, yes, it remains in that state, but it only activates between 1/10 and 2 seconds.
Basically, I originally designed this function for myself, but I integrated it into the SMART systems.

Unfortunately, it won’t be included in manual triggers. This is a more expensive SMART feature, but I’m working on the Canon TTL trigger and hope to bring it to market soon.

[Adventurer]

On 1/19/2025 at 12:46 PM, TURTLE-Balage said:

Hello, yes, it remains in that state, but it only activates between 1/10 and 2 seconds.

Fantastic, just as fantastic that your manual triggers auto-switch to HSS mode once you shoot faster than 1/250sec.

 

I would love to have this as a feature in a manual smart trigger for my Marelux MX-R6 II housing.

 

However your trigger design keeps me away from using it, as I cannot fit the box on top. There is a physical camera holding element hindering me from using anything larger than a very thin hot shoe cable in the Marelux housing. I tried the manual trigger of a friend and like the functionality. My friend said I should get your mobie version to get around that problem,  but you do not seem to offer that for your latest trigger generation anymore.

 

 

Edited February 2 by Adventurer

[TURTLE-Balage]

Hello. 

As far as I know, there is plenty of space for our trigger in the Marelux housing.
I have been using the 5mm LED in the Sony A7 IV Marelux housing for years, and it works perfectly.
Here is the link about the 5mm leds: 
https://www.trt-electronics.com/shop/led-adapter-replacement-5-mm-normal-led/8/

So if you order the e-TURTLE 2 manual trigger with these leds you can use it in Marelux housing. 

https://www.trt-electronics.com/shop/e-turtle-2-manual-with-15-cd/47/

If you have any question just write Us. 

[Adventurer]

On 2/3/2025 at 6:58 PM, TURTLE-Balage said:

As far as I know, there is plenty of space for our trigger in the Marelux housing.

 

Sorry Balage, but you know it wrong.

 

Enclosed is a picture of the MARELUX MX-R6II housing and your manual trigger in the same frame.

 

The part circled in red is where the pointer points is the MARELUX orginal design which keeps the camera positioned stable in the housing even when exposed to shocks, during rides in rough sea or a zodiac etc. I do not want to remove that part for camera safety reasons and make the precise housing design, fail.

 

Also on the right in the picture is your TRT manual trigger for Canon. 

It simply does not fit and you cannot recommend this product to Canon owners.

Anyone who buys it will be unable to push it onto the hot shoe.

 

In picture two you see your competitor uw-technics who does it right. 

You also see the space that is available. I would love to use your trigger, but I am unable to get there without a hotshoe extension and holder that will properly locate it in the dedicated housing space for triggers, designed by Marelux.

[christophe chellapermal]

i ve had also a bitter experience with trt

[Jerry Diver]

We should hold housing manufacturers accountable for this issue. Companies like Nauticam have made millions producing housings, yet they don’t invest a small fraction of that into developing a proper trigger board, something that would cost just a few dollars in electronics. Instead, we’re left relying on third-party solutions like Turtle or UW Technics, both of which come with their own limitations, including mounting challenges inside the housing.

 

@Edward Lai Nauticam and others should develop a dedicated trigger for each camera housing rather than forcing users to seek aftermarket solutions for a $5000+ housing. A proper trigger board should be included in the price!

[Adventurer]

3 hours ago, Jerry Diver said:

We should hold housing manufacturers accountable for this issue.

 

Good luck in a free world and free market! If you want this just decide on another housing company such as INON or SEACAM where you can have TTL-triggers and 2nd curtain sync all integrated from one brand. Also good luck explaining the raised costs of housing because of LED triggers to videographers who do not need strobe triggers at all. 

 

Be happy and thankful that companies like uw-technics @Pavel Kolpakov and TRT @TURTLE-Balage give innovative solutions to us, for underwater housings and photographers who appreciate them. I have had very positive experience with both companies and their products. So sorry that I cannot join in on your rant and bashing.

Can we please not try to hi-jack this thread ?

The TRT TURTLE trigger developer and owner introduced here something really interesting and innovative. I would appreciate if we do not scare him off and frustrate him. As I said before: I really would love to use this on a Canon in a Marelux housing, but there needs to be a technical solution for this. I would even swap out my uw-technics LED trigger occasionally for this, because I like the 1/250sec auto-switch to HSS function on TRTs manual Canon triggers.

[TURTLE-Balage]

Dear Adventurer

 

Sorry, I did not notice that there is an accessory built into your housing. I can see it now in the photo.

You need to remove that, as the factory Marelux trigger takes up the space.

So, remove it, and I think it should work.

 

 

[Adventurer]

18 minutes ago, TURTLE-Balage said:

You need to remove that, as the factory Marelux trigger takes up the space.

So, remove it, and I think it should work.

 

As I already explained and illustrated in picture before, the accessory is not the issue.

 

Even when the uw-technics TTL trigger (that's the accessory you refer to) in my housing is removed you are unable to put your trigger on top of the camera. The structural element which holds the cameras upper side in place and prevents it from misaligning with heavy lenses in the housing blocks your TRT trigger box hot shoe. The turtle trigger cannot be mounted as a non-mobie version in MX-R6II housings, please accept that.

 

Please start offering mobie versions for all of your products.

Edited February 7 by Adventurer

[TURTLE-Balage]

6 hours ago, Adventurer said:

 

As I already explained and illustrated in picture before, the accessory is not the issue.

 

Even when the uw-technics TTL trigger (that's the accessory you refer to) in my housing is removed you are unable to put your trigger on top of the camera. The structural element which holds the cameras upper side in place and prevents it from misaligning with heavy lenses in the housing blocks your TRT trigger box hot shoe. The turtle trigger cannot be mounted as a non-mobie version in MX-R6II housings, please accept that.

 

Please start offering mobie versions for all of your products.

 

 

I understand your frustration.

Unfortunately, the photo you uploaded was misleading to me because the trigger was in focus.

We have to accept that there are situations where a photo of housing alone does not clearly show whether our trigger is compatible.

 

I' d also like to add that no manufacturer is willing to collaborate with third-party accessory companies.

It is impossible to buy and test every case, camera, or flash available on the market.

 

We invest a lot of money in testing and keep a large stock of flashes and cameras, but there is no amount of money that would allow us to answer every question instantly.

 

Pavel and I do our best to help every customer, but it would be much easier if people contacted us directly .

 

Im sorry for misunderstanding your question.

 

In this case i see the normal trigger does not fit there.

 

Sorry  

Balazs

 

[Adventurer]

8 hours ago, Adventurer said:

Please start offering mobie versions for all of your products.

What do you think about this suggestion? 

[TURTLE-Balage]

I will thinking about that.   Now we are working on the TURTLE 3 version.  

[CaolIla]

43 minutes ago, TURTLE-Balage said:

 Now we are working on the TURTLE 3 version.  

Hummm and what will be the news on this turtle 3?

On my side I need a Canon (R5)Version  for an Isotta housing  with Retra Flash 😜