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Hello,

I built myself a trim system for my Nautical Nikon Z8 housing. It consists out of two aluminum profiles and a few amazon aluminum cheese plates. The goal is to have neutral rig with adjustable trim (with small weights on a sled), so I can do some tilted shots against the sun and so on. The profiles are that long on the rear end, because of the 6inch monitor, so I have enough space to mount ist perfectly for alle my needs. An additional benefit is that I can put my camera down, without the hazard of scratching the housing. There is a rubber boot at the bottom of the profile. The products you can buy are too expensive and sometimes too small. I tried to keep everything as close to the housing as possible to mimic a bigger cine housing. What do you think?

Daniel

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Wow, that looks very nice! I'm really curious as to how it will handle, especially with the photo-style flexitray handles close to port.


Do you mind linking to the material you've used, and the weight system that plan on using for trim?

cheers

Beautiful work. I am looking forward to hearing how it works once you get it in the water.

I am toying with ideas on how to mount my monitor. I looked at the Nauticam PN 17951 but they don't seem to have a version for the SmallHD monitor that I have, so I think that I will have to come up with my own. Right now, I am using a ball mount in the threaded hole at the right front, but it tends to loosen up, and isn't in a great spot.

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Hey, thank you for your nice comments, i try to answer everyone in this posting.

@bghazzal I used this:

2x400mm https://www.innovalu.at/de/30x30mm-schwarz-eloxiertes-aluprofil.html

10x

https://www.innovalu.at/de/nutenstein-M6-nut-8.html

2x https://www.innovalu.at/de/profilgummiauflage.html

4x https://www.innovalu.at/de/endkappe-30x30.html

I think the weight system are going to be trim weights from a small camera gimbal. They have like 20g each and a thread on one side, so I can directly screw it into the T-nuts.

@SwiftFF5 Yeah that‘s the next thing I have to consider. The monitor mount. I am thinking about a small profile, the same I used as the sleds and then a ball mount into the T-nut.

@Davide DB Thabk you :) The monitor mount is still a thing I have to think about. I bought a 6inch Fotocore monitor, which has a thread in the back. Maybe I find a sleek solution, as i mentioned a few sentences above.

The weights are going to be trim weights from a small camera gimbal. Something like this: https://www.smallrig.com/de/smallrig-counterweight-kit-for-dji-rs-2-rsc-2-selected-zhiyun-gimbals-3125.html?skuId=1517092352715550721&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21452025728&gbraid=0AAAAA9ksdxnnV3mUnnX4AgHUGDQ4xJUHd&gclid=Cj0KCQjw64jDBhDXARIsABkk8J7JMMawtmDLSQLNOzEJmcCwaDykZwWx--88QyH6l9RYFRgWSh2jWeYaAvEdEALw_wcB

Yes tripod legs, like I saw here in the DIY forum with ball mounts and carbon arms are possible on the inside of the profiles. If i use spacers on one side, I can flip them and store them perfectly below the housing.

@Tom Kline It may looks more elegant, but I still have to test it ;) But I love your pole cam setup!! It is really great. What do you use as a pole?

Looks like a great project, presumably the idea is to get the rig neutral and move the weights to change from horizontal trim to pointing up/down. It's an interesting 3-dimensional balance problem, the weights/housing want to stay at the bottom and the floats want to stay at the top so it takes increasingly more torque to twist the whole rig to point upwards. I discovered how much using about 1.4kg of floats on my strobe arms with my rig - it was close to neutral but did not want to point up. The point is if your angles are small then it won't take much to change the trim but pointing something like 30-45° up will be more of a challenge. If you increase the weight of the balance weights to assist you need more buoyancy up top which makes things worse.

I faced a similar issue balancing a fork-mount astronomical telescope - they work best if well balanced and you can point them anywhere in the sky and they will stay with only slight friction on the clutches when done properly. I had a smaller guide scope piggy-backed on top and to achieve balance I needed weights equivalent to the weight of the guide scope on the opposite side of the main scope and a much smaller sliding trim weight.

Thinking about how to achieve something similar if that's your aim you would need to split your flotation 50/50 between above and below the housing. An additional complication is if you have lights on arms, the balance will change every time you move them. The solution might then be to make the lights neural with a float collar on each of them. You could for example make your lights neutral, then balance the housing with buoyancy split between the arms for the lights and the other 50% strapped to in the inside of your rails. you could move the bottom floats back and forward to help with front/back trim. Just some thoughts on how to make it balanced in most positions.

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