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yeah when you do multi items it calculates the total. maybe I can add a option above multi item listing for Package Price, and use that as the listing price or show both and if you sell 1 or more items have the kit price drop off and use the total from items left. have to think about that. for now I suggest, putting in the comments the cheaper package price.

Problem solved: I just saw the "edit" button to the right...😄

Good to hear your thoughts that the Tamron has a good chance of working well underwater. That Laowa 12mm working behind a 140mm dome sounds excellent for reef scenes in the Red Sea etc!

You probably went through much the same pain at the time as I did when "proper" housings for SLR's first came out and everyone was trying to figure out which lenses worked and which ones didn't - and at times we couldn't work out why one would work and another one didn't.

I just have put my Sony 90mm macro lens, Focus gear and the nauticam macroport in the marketplace... I listed the individual items and added the entire package (=cheaper) as a separate item. Now the sum shown is the individual items plus the package... => Nobody will have a closer look when seeing this false price... => How can I edit the announce and cancel the package? Thanks, Wolfgang

I think the Tamron 12-20mm will be well suited to U/W work simply because at 12mm if will focus to 18cm. With the proper extension it should work well behind domes in the 200mm and larger range. This is not the case with lenses like the Nikon Z 14-24mm F/2.8 and Sony FE 12-24mm F/2.8 GM that only focus to 28cm. Another excellent very wide lens is the Laowa 12mm F/2.8 AF for FE & Z. This lens will focus to 14cm and is usable behind a 140mm dome with proper extension. This lens is much less expensive than the 12-20 at $699.00. If you want a less expensive fisheye that natively mounts on Nikon Z checkout the 7Artisans 10mm f/2.5 AF MAX Fisheye Lens (Nikon Z).

The reviews suggest it’s good? Underwater? Too many WA lenses are great topside. Underwater? Not so much. Housing them can be a disappointing experience. If only someone would build the Tokina 10-17 for FF and APS-C. And M43.

new price (shipping within EU included; no shipping to USA): Sony 90mm macro lens (new: 799 Euro): asking 400 Euro Focus gear (new: 220 Euro): asking 120 Euro Macroport 105 (new: 440 Euro): asking 260 Euro selling together as set for 740 Euro (preferred).

Item is available again (shipping to US turned out to be extremely difficult): 250 Euro, shipping within EU included (no shipping tp US)

Now THIS is going to be interesting! Insta360: uses special lenses to accommodate underwater use price around EUR180 PROS: probably thought of underwater use also after working with Nauticam to accommodate their X5 experiment (I should know :-) ) CONS: can't use it above water for like zodiac rides, before/after dive clips etc., does only 8k50 Osmo360 II similar large dome design as Insta360 does not use special lenses BUT claims optical convex port (whatever that means) and minimum stitching distance of 1m priced at about EUR70 (500HKD plus taxes...) PROS: can use it topside AND underwater, does 8K60 CONS: we have no idea WHEN it will be available and what that optical convex mean and what will be image quality Both have 10bit and both shoot LOG so I say we will be in for a treat for documentation and instagram purposes. It will NOT replace latest 4k action cams, their footage is still miles better then any of those two 360 wonders. Nauticam NA-X5 will still probably keep optical crown, can't really replace glass with plastic for sharpness and micro contrast but also it is heavy and really not meant to be placed on camera housing. Excited! Which one will you choose? PS you can see demo of NA-X5 results in low light and pure video mode on my YouTube channel. When I compared that with Malpelo footage (similar light conditions but plastic PRO case) the results the glass dome produced were really much better. https://youtu.be/PPfFBkMplRw?si=fGmbi80gbbGhquGP

A new lens starts shipping in a couple of weeks for Nikon FF Z mount - Tamron's new 12-20 F2.8 AF rectlinier lens - the reviews so far have suggested that it is very very good. I'm not really a fisheye fan as I like straight lines on a wreck to be straight lines (or very nearly straight lines) in an image as well, and the reviews have shown that there is very little distortion of straight lines when shooting at 12mm. It is certainly going on my spreadsheet of lenses to consider.

Hi Odyssea! A warm welcome to Waterpixels. Great to have you with us. We hope you enjoy the forum. Best wishes Tim

The only thing, for me, to bear in mind with the 8-15 is that it hardly merits being considered as a zoom. It’s really two lenses: a 15mm FE; and an 8mm lens that produces a circular image. The later is interesting but has very limited use. There’s precious little useable zoom between the two. If you add a 1.4 TC it becomes much more interesting as a lens on FF. Used on an APS-C body it’s a great with or without a TC.

Hey guys, I just created my profile after lurking for a while. I was quite active in the other -now deceased- forum, as well as scubaboard. Glad to be here to learn and hopefully contribute. Cheers!

@monikatheplant I don't get here as often as I used to... And yes, I still have the AX700 Gates housing if you're interested. It has absolutely no problem with overheating. Probably have to get it out and take some pictures to post in the marketplace. Tom

When I eventually "retire" I plan to set up a small not-for-profit in the south east of Mindanao that will oeprate a small diving resort that has access to good shore diving, the profits from which will be used to help build emergency response capability and disaster resiliance in the area - there is virtually nothing of either there at the moment. A whole series of coastal communities where the nearest fire truck has a three hour response time to get there says "opportunity for improvement", and given the frequent floods, landslides and earthquakes I'm thinking that something like a skidsteer loader etc would be a useful addition for the communities, as would a stock of sandbags etc.

I would also probably use this camera mainly underwater, so I agree, that this extra lens means that underwater use was seriously considered and designed.

At least one person likes the Tamron 17-28: https://interceptor121.com/2024/04/13/tamron-17-28-f2-8-for-underwater-photography-review/

Hard to beat a 8-15 behind the 140mm dome like Dave Hicks uses. If there is a lens combo that works for Nikon FF he's probably tried it. Both those use cases want an AF lens.

There’s been discussion in the past about using these lenses and it’s worth doing a search. I do remember reading about issues with the 14-24. I’m sure you’re right that all three need probably 230-sized domes.

In addition to using professional system cameras like EOS 5D Mark IV etc., I have used and enjoyed different GoPro versions for many above-water excursions over the years. However, when it comes to underwater photography I am uncertain as to what photo quality, resolution and light sensitivity to expect. What are your experiences, and which GoPro versions could you recommend for those curious about using GoPro for UW?

Any Nikon ff z-shooters that have tried it and can share experiences?

Nice, the focus peaking shows it is sharper and the AF will work better with a sharper image - it should not be any better than the bare lens in air, but it shows the level of image degradation of a 60mm FF equiv macro lens through a flat port.