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I would loose that Pelican case, with padding it's more like 2.5kg. I bought one too but got checked with it so many times that I no longer use it. These days I am using super light roller similar to https://itluggage.com/products/atmospheric-wide-handle-design-cabin-skyway with each item - flash, ports, etc - using its own bubble wrap padding. Still - all batteries (extra 2kg) - go into my fannypack which gets gently tucked under my oversized tropical motives shirt :-). On my latest trip to Indonesia I tried another hack - an entire underwater camera housing with WACP-C minus handles (6kg by itself) - being my personal item. Fits very nicely underneath the seat and I never had feeling something would be bothering my feet space. At checkin at multiple flights and airlines nobody blinked an eye. Etihad weighed our carry ons and they were 9kg so they only said ' it's 7kg next time ' also because we had checked allowance 30kg and were using only 20kg - they were weighing the carry ons on top of checked in luggage(!). My 'very personal item' :-) was ignored. Note - shouldn't put camera in it as some buttons and levers can be pushed at times and you don't want to get this precise machinery tired anyhow. When it is empty it does not matter.

Canon V1 opinion anyone? We know it's going to provide decent quality WA in a super small package with that small dome but what about macro? I do not shoot wet macro optics and have no idea how it is going to work with that lens ...

In short I sent in a feature request for a shortcut to turning ON and OFF Log/HDR processing of incoming HDMI signal and received a generic answer. Great! They are responsive! So I went ahead with more details and use case: Hello Umair and thank you for quick response. The feature we are asking for is - in fact - independent on camera. It is only an addition to user interface of Atomos OS. Currently this feature is available through touch screen interface and requires several steps - touching the screen at various places. This is unavailable to us when the monitor is in the underwater housing enclosure as all we can access is the bottom row of icons. So the feature request would only comprise of work inside of Atomos OS fully independent on any camera manufacturer and also independent on hardware of Shinobi monitors. It really is only a UI change. Please please... The other option is using SmallHD Ultra5 with its function buttons but apart from the cost it also draws more power. The enclosure available from Nauticam only supports 50Wh battery which is like 2 hours of work which is like 2 dives. Not bad but Shinobi allows for full day of using (4x 1hr dives) without recharging battery which is important factor to us divers. But if there is no will then unfortunately Shinobi is of no good use for underwater and it will have to be SmallHD. So please please... Best regards Roman Insta@romikasan68 And I received less generic answer: Hello Roman, Thank you for explaining your setup in more detail and for highlighting why this feature would be so useful for your underwater work. We have shared your request with our engineering team However, as they handle a large number of feature requests and ongoing developments, we are unable to provide a timeline for when or if this particular feature might be implemented. We genuinely appreciate your input and how clearly you have outlined the use case. Please feel free to reach out anytime if you have further suggestions. Umair Zaki Best Regards Atomos Team It could help if more people would express desire for this feature at [email protected] or by any other suitable means (conventions etc). Thx

Nah... 4kg option is the WACP-1. WACP-C is mere 2.2kg ... compare wet option below...

I think one needs to look at the whole system and not just parameters of separate components. I am just on my way back from Halhamera exploration liveaboard where I took my new WACP-C on a maiden voyage. I don't see many other options - travel friendly- , that would allow me to do pictures below on one dive. Even though size shouldn't matter it's hard to beat 50-60Mpix full frame sensor paired with good optics. Sony A1 28-60 WACP-C. The first image for demo of wide angle, second full frame of the third crop. No AI enhancements, just levels. Would you believe you could shoot pygmy horse - and get publishable results - with wide angle lens?

My initial thoughts would be that because you get to the subject closer with FCP your lens behind it focuses on shorter distance which means that hyperfocal DOF will be shifted towards the camera. Like if a lens DOF is 2m-inf at F11 (which means you are like 60cm from subject with wacpc) then with FCP you need to get closer with that wonderful 180 to have the same size of subject in the frame which means now you are focusing at 1.2m being only 40cm from subject and then you are getting 1.2m-3m DOF at F11. I am taking focus point as a mean point in DOF expression, what is before that doesn’t interests me for this explanation if it makes sense. This would be my take on why DOF is different with FCP from WACP with the same lens. And that’s when we think the magnification is the same 0.36. If it would be different the principle is the same with just another variable. Or I am completely wrong 🤣.

A very personal camera item 🤣

Yes I agree very much. Optically it seems there is no bad apple and the differences are subtle (apart from characteristics given by their nature (diopter vs dome). There is always some CA, some unsharpness but the central part of the image seems to be on par. Where did WACP-C really surprised (compared to WWL1) me was the long end which I considered with WWL1 very soft and I attributed it to the lens. So when I saw what I saw with WACP my jaw dropped. I will have to reshoot WWL with flash as it seems to me that we have to feed these optics (also EMWL) with a lot of light to produce good results. To me WACP even though dedicated it still is a tool and the main benefit would be the use of native AF and its performance. To me the use of native AF trumps all the other cards. Even without video in mind I am experiencing quite a few misses on 8-15 shots including the lab pictures from pool. So much for universally adopted truth right?! :-) I was surprised too! => never trust these internet wisdoms until you see it for yourself :-). I'd say the CA was more pronounced towards the edges as expected but the horizontal lines stayed sharp until the end! Oh god, I could have saved some money perhaps... or we could have swapped my EMWL (just kidding :-) ... I will see how I like WACP-C in Lembeh - Halmahera and also how I like and how it will work my new way of packing presenting housing+WACP+camera-handles-ballmounts as a personal item in addition to my carry-on :-) one note is that MC11 doesn't support video and AF-C either I too love 20-70. For me it's the ultimate lens for where you expect unexpected :-) it's sharp like hell and cropping into 50Mpix at 70mm is like macro. It is less ideal for wrecks caves and big ocean but other that its amazing lens! The attached images of 3 nudis as well as stitched (!!) panorama were taken by it at Cape Verde couple months back. My short experience with 8-15 and DOF is quite opposite - in reality I have to be very very close to the subject for it to have meaningful impact in the frame while shooting at wide angle. Which means that the lens is focusing at its or close to minimum focus distance which means that no matter aperture you throw at it the DOF will be quite shallow (as the hyperfocal distance is like 3m for this lens?). Because behind the dome the focus distance is like 1/3 right? So the subject 1m away - which is like a mile when at 15mm - will focus at 30cm. And subject right at your dome will focus at 15cm. With all implications for DOF. While nauticams diopters will move the focus point like 3x away so the subject 0.5m away will focus at 1.5m which in turn will produce much greater DOF even with mediocre 28-60 sufficiently closed down. I think I demonstrated this in my other post about 8-15 and WWL1. Unless I am missing something these diopters will in reality produce greater FOV - not smaller - than fisheye behind the dome 🤷

just a side note - the pad was not photographed from the same distance for presented scenarios so the number of squares in crops and their size is meaningless in comparisons. the purpose of this comp was sharpness and rendering, perhaps CA, - not distortions or magnifications.

Before leaving for Indonesia tomorrow I was able to do a quick comparison between my new addition WACP-C and adapted 8-15 the photos of which I made back in spring. Disclaimer is that WACP samples were done with the strobe at ISO100 while for 8-15 I was using video light at higher ISO and so the results might not 100% comparable. Will reshoot when I have time. First the costs and weights of both systems (8-15 quoted at used price level): Both systems are kind of neutral-ish buoyant in this configuration: The following screenshots have this system: first Fit view followed by 300% comp view with rectangle at left upper corner showing the part of the frame compared. As I stated earlier I picked up samples which showed good focus for 8-15 as weaker light and also shutter speed without flash sometimes produced unfocused images. But these I think were sharp in the center and so let's get on with these. 8-15 TC2x in 140mm dome 55mm+35.5mm N100/120 vs WACP-C both F11: ... and 8-15 TC2x 55+35.5 in 180mm dome vs. WACP-C 28mm: And finally 8-15 TC2x 55+35.5 in 140mm at 30mm vs WACP-C at 60mm I am very happy with performance of WACP-C especially at 60mm as this is what I would be using for smaller subjects and crop heavily on 50Mpix image. I will leave conclusions to yourselves :-). For me I realized that 180 degrees view is not as important as the DOF and native AF lens performance which doesn't mean I am going to sell 8-15 combo - yet. Cheers :-)

No I wasn't using Pure Video... honestly I forgot about that mode the entire trip, I got it like two days before. I am leaving for Indonesia next week so I will try it there. It didn't look though as there would be dark, this video was like at 18m at Yolanda reef in Red Sea during the clear day. There were other dives ideal for that I guess like Thistlegorm but again ... We will see next week ...

Maybe switching over to YouTube would help? These built in players have their own issues, YT should play fine. Just click.

Still not sure what to think about it. I was expecting a little bit more in terms of sharpness. Weirdly it has kind of distance range where it is so so sharp but too close and it isn't (minimum focus distance obviously) but then it's like anything from 3m on is not sharp either. Judge for yourself, shot in 8k30.

Thanks, I've tried but IG no good search and quality 🤯... It may be a good subject for next UWPmag perhaps... I bet most photographers hate to travel with 230 but if 140 would be good comparable for these ultra wide lenses you may get some more sales :-) Myself I will do some pool pics of Sony 14/1.8 in 140 but I don't have 230 to compare it with... Anyway safe travels and if the time would allow it would be great to post some higher res comps here.

I think with flat port and diopter it would be great for macro. I am very excited about this Nauticam housing with this camera - combining (removable) dome port with the 16-50 (supposedly) almost constant length barrel it should provide image quality comparable to (in real world) any full frame camera with 25Mpix sensors. Plus it has good ergonomics plus the trigger for flash... It checks all buttons for ultimate pocket UW imaging device.