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TTL systems in underwater photo

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TTL systems in underwater photo

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  1. Hello Pavel ,

    do you know if UW Technics converter works in TTL with the new strobe ONE 160X ( https://www.oneuw.com/en/one-160x-strobe/ ) ?

    many thanks

    Paolo

    Hi Paolo,

    This is a new strobe, announced recently. Of course, UWTechnics TTL Converters works with it. Because this is just a typical 160w strobe with a round tube. It's ttl-profile must be very similar to Ikelite DS-160 or Subtronic Pro-160, which are supported by TTL Converter.

    If this strobe will be widely distributed on the market in future, It would be good to describe it's TTL more detailed. I can do it, but need a sample for tests, at least for 1 day.

    Edited by Pavel Kolpakov
  2. Hello Pavel ,

    thank you for answer .

     

    I saw new new article ( May 5th ) in wetpixel : https://www.tripadvisor.co.za/ShowUserReviews-g312559-d4431592-r388696566-Pro_Dive_Centre-Port_Elizabeth_Eastern_Cape.html

     

    price is 450$

     

    but in UW Tecnichs website ( https://uwtechnics.com/index.php/online-store/ttl-converters/for-canon/11044-ttl-converter-for-canon-for-sea-sea-underwater-housings-detail ) the price of same item is 495 $

     

    maybe the website is not updated to new correct price ?

    ( ... I'm going to order but this mistake stopped me ... )

     

     

    thanks

    Paolo

    Edited by paolobl65
  3.  

    Hi Paolo,

    Different price may be dependently of optional products (if included).

     

    Standard kit includes TTL board, HotShoe cable, 2 pcs optical LED emitters with plastic adapters.

    This is most popular setup, purposed for Optical TTL usage.

    post-53244-0-79760500-1557573255_thumb.jpg

     

    Optional products

    If user also needs Electric TTL via Sea&Sea Nikonos bulkheads, usually he requires electric cable adapters (1 or 2 pcs). This is optional product. There can be few variants, dependently of parts (UWT connector or original Sea&Sea connector, 1 or 2 pcs, etc.). Better specify optional parts when ordering.

    post-53244-0-79538500-1557573275_thumb.jpg

     

    Maximum configuration includes 2 optical + 2 electric connections, simultaneously working in TTL.

    You can look such installation picture in Article here at Wetpixel.

    Edited by Pavel Kolpakov
  4.  

    Hi Paolo,

    Different price may be dependently of optional products (if included). There was such optional kit on the website, but it is already updated to standard kit.

     

    Standard kit includes TTL board, HotShoe cable, 2 pcs optical LED emitters with plastic adapters.

    This is most popular setup, purposed for Optical TTL usage.

    attachicon.gif1s-SeaSea-Nikon-TTL-board.jpg

     

    Optional products

    If user also needs Electric TTL via Sea&Sea Nikonos bulkheads, usually he requires electric cable adapters (1 or 2 pcs). This is optional product. There can be few variants, dependently of parts (UWT connector or original Sea&Sea connector, 1 or 2 pcs, etc.), all are available. Better specify optional parts when ordering.

    attachicon.gif4s-Electr-conect.jpg

     

     

    Perfect Pavel !

    I only need the Optical ( standard ) Kit !

    thanks again

    Paolo

    Edited by paolobl65
  5. Yes, for Optical TTL you need just a standard kit.

    To be sure in technical details of that TTL board, you can look online User's Manual

    Edited by Pavel Kolpakov
  6. Hello Pavel,

     

    Referring to the TTL converter for Sony a7Rii to be released, fitting it to a Meikon case, can you recommend a retrofit to the single hole in the top of the case for fiberoptic cables to two strobes? Or would the case have to be modified for two optical bulkheads? Below are diagrams of the Meikon case hole that fits their standard sync bulkhead.

     

    Thanks for any help.

     

    post-77081-0-68200000-1557778765_thumb.jpg

    post-77081-0-42065600-1557778800_thumb.jpg

  7. Hello Pavel,

    Referring to the TTL converter for Sony a7Rii to be released, fitting it to a Meikon case, can you recommend a retrofit to the single hole in the top of the case for fiberoptic cables to two strobes? Or would the case have to be modified for two optical bulkheads? Below are diagrams of the Meikon case hole that fits their standard sync bulkhead.

    Thanks for any help.

     

    Yes, Meikon bulkhead has rather special shape mount. But there is no problem with it. For TTL-Converter usage, UWTechnics will suggest 3 optional bulkheads as replacement:

    - Optical bulkhead / Sea&Sea style optical connector. For 2 strobes you can use HowShot Dual FO cable, for example, or another brand dual 613-core cable of new generation.

    - Electric bulkhead / Nikonos style. For 2 strobes you can use Sea&Sea Dual sync cord.

    - Electric bulkhead / Ikelite style. For 2 strobes you can use Ikelite Dual sync cord.

    Edited by Pavel Kolpakov
  8. Excellent.

     

    Thank you

  9. I received two Z330s today. It took 6 weeks to deliver.

     

    And ignoring the warning in the instructions, they work fine in parallel via a Y sync cable,as Pavel and others have said they would.

  10. I just got a un technics converter today. Installation was easy.

     

    I did a few test shots and they look good.

     

    Odd, they recommend for the Em1 ii to set the flash compensation to +0.5, but I swear the camera goes from 0.3 to 0.7

    Still it is cool to be able to + or - the light from the camera (I need to play with assigning a button for it.

     

    I won't be able to play with the system in the water until my channel islands trip in August.

  11. I just got a un technics converter today. Installation was easy.

     

    I did a few test shots and they look good.

     

    Odd, they recommend for the Em1 ii to set the flash compensation to +0.5, but I swear the camera goes from 0.3 to 0.7

    Still it is cool to be able to + or - the light from the camera (I need to play with assigning a button for it.

     

    I won't be able to play with the system in the water until my channel islands trip in August.

     

    I also love this TTL-Converter for Olympus cameras. New generation TTL product, everything is optimized there.

    Can you show some underwater images with that TTL, after your dive trip?

    Edited by Pavel Kolpakov
  12. I modified my a7Rii Meikon case for the dual fiberoptic bulkhead connector that comes with the Seafrogs a6xxx Salted Line case.  I'm hoping to interface the UW-Technics converter with it so I can keep the standard synch cable connector as well.

     

    fiberoptic ports.jpg

    Edited by davec13o2
  13. On 5/14/2019 at 6:22 AM, davec13o2 said:

    Hello Pavel,

     

    Referring to the TTL converter for Sony a7Rii to be released, fitting it to a Meikon case, can you recommend a retrofit to the single hole in the top of the case for fiberoptic cables to two strobes? Or would the case have to be modified for two optical bulkheads? Below are diagrams of the Meikon case hole that fits their standard sync bulkhead.

     

    Thanks for any help.

     

    post-77081-0-68200000-1557778765_thumb.jpg

    post-77081-0-42065600-1557778800_thumb.jpg

    If it takes standard S&S connectors just use a double hole bushing:  https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj7kIOI7PnjAhXvH7cAHUvAAmkQFjAAegQIABAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.backscatter.com%2FInon-Double-Hole-Rubber-bushing-for-fiber-optic-ca&usg=AOvVaw2Cil2iynFGuZBkfJi4USIJ

    There is also a right angle version available.

  14. Thanks Chris,

    Since that posting, I've been using the adapter you show  in the right port of my Seafrogs a6500 case because the left side port doesn't get enough light diverted from the onboard flash to trigger a strobe reliably.  The commercial two-port plastic bulkhead adapter is all I could get for my a7Rii case.

    I've also used the double hole bushing to relay trigger light to two strobes from a Nimar led trigger, and in that case neither strobe would trigger.  One strobe would trigger, although not reliably, with a single hole bushing, possibly because the fiberoptic cable was better aligned with the axis of the weak led.  These problems go away with both single and double hole bushings when used with the flood of light from the a6500 onboard flash.

  15. 51 minutes ago, davec13o2 said:

    I've also used the double hole bushing to relay trigger light to two strobes from a Nimar led trigger, and in that case neither strobe would trigger.  One strobe would trigger, although not reliably, with a single hole bushing, possibly because the fiberoptic cable was better aligned with the axis of the weak led.  These problems go away with both single and double hole bushings when used with the flood of light from the a6500 onboard flash.

    Are you using single- or multi-core fiber optic cables? I've seen multiple recommendations to use multi-core cables (typically 613 strands) with LED triggers and/or less sensitive strobes because they transmit light more efficiently.

  16. I use the Howshot cables for Inon strobes from Diversion.  I assume they're multicore, but I haven't verified that.  I get the same results with Meikon cables and with unknown brands from China via ebay.

  17. I ran a pair of Z240's through a Sea&Sea Y cable without any issues before moving to optical connections. (I have a couple of Y cables and a couple of direct cables available if anyone wants to make me an offer)

  18. On 8/11/2019 at 2:17 AM, davec13o2 said:

    I modified my a7Rii Meikon case for the dual fiberoptic bulkhead connector that comes with the Seafrogs a6xxx Salted Line case.  I'm hoping to interface the UW-Technics converter with it so I can keep the standard synch cable connector as well.

     

    fiberoptic ports.jpg

    Good job!  And good idea!

    Please advice, where did you buy that transparent spare part? I also need it.

    By the way, UW Technics is developing now TTL converter for Seafrog A6xxx housings. It's LED board is purposed for installation on this transparent part (inside the housing).  TTL converter has LED and Electric outputs, as usual. So, you could more easy use both type connectors (Optical/Electric) on your A7RIII housing, using that transparent part you has installed and Nikonos bulkhead simultaneously. 

    Edited by Pavel Kolpakov
  19. Here are the dimensions I used for milling my case.  Note the shoulder that makes it a bit more complicated.

     

    Plastic fo bulkhead dims.jpg

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