This video really struck me. For the imagination and the technique used.

Until now, I hadn't seen underwater videos generated by A.I. that were not just convincing, but even interesting. Bravo!!

Edit: I'm sad for those lens underwater 😛

When fashion holds its breath... 🌊 Several meters deep,...

When fashion holds its breath... 🌊 Several meters deep, fashion claimed the ocean floor. Submerged catwalks between corals and shipwrecks, silhouettes moving through the silence of the abyss, under

How about using AI for fish identification with a HUD underwater?

I think there are projects for fish ID.. Google does a pretty decent job of it already, but one issue of UW is that we don't have a good way to connect to a remote server (EM waves don't travel well through water). We can run a pre-trained AI "in-mask". We'd would need a fairly powerful computer.. maybe Arduino will not cut it - perhaps need something like a Raspberry Pi. Plus you need to power it, I guess battery life would suck. I think it's a great project. It should come first to those UW rovers, which are larger and already have cameras..

Cheers

Ajay

We've looked into running object detect and identification models at the edge (on-device with smaller hardware) and the biggest issue ends up being compute and storage. Most models today run on GPUs, thus the massive data centers and the associated run-up in nVidia stock! We've been able to run some of the smaller models on-device, but without cloud connectivity, something like a species identification model may be a bit too far for current hardware. You may get something that will identify at a larger level (whale, shark, porpoise, etc), but granular ID could be tough.

There was a video posted on reddit a few weeks ago, being shared all over on random subreddits, with dolphins and a whale that I'm convinced is AI.

But it's really really good AI. Some small tells that just don't make sense.

Underwater video my cousin took in Bora Bora. Cooler with sound! : r/BeAmazed

36 minutes ago, Lewis88 said:

There was a video posted on reddit a few weeks ago, being shared all over on random subreddits, with dolphins and a whale that I'm convinced is AI.

But it's really really good AI. Some small tells that just don't make sense.

Underwater video my cousin took in Bora Bora. Cooler with sound! : r/BeAmazed

I don't even believe my own mother anymore 😁

It's a real shame that for any video, we are now forced to ask ourselves if it's AI. And fundamentally, if we're wrong about a video of dolphins and whales, who gives a damn! But now I see skepticism everywhere. I've read absurd discussions regarding images of war, from Palestine to Ukraine, about things we shouldn't have the slightest doubt about.

Returning to the whale, at the 27-second mark, the fin on the left of the screen grows disproportionately large. I don't know if it was too far away and in shadow before, but it's suspicious.

P.S.

I was given a temporary Google Gemini Pro account, and a few weeks ago, just for fun, I tried to generate a small piece of video. Crazy. Essentially, I gave it the last frame of one clip I had and the first frame of another clip, and I asked to construct a particular scene in the middle t

The result was "almost" perfect. It connected perfectly because it started and ended with my own frames.I should have tried with different prompts, but then I got bored and quit.

Just six months ago, this wasn't remotely possible.

At 42 seconds, one of the dolphins just grows longer and longer for no reason.

But it's scary that it's so hard to tell except for little things here and there.

Please, no. I hve not entered a contest ever but I apprecite looking at the photos you folks put up and the skill and luck and chance and dedication. AI will ruin photography because real photographs can never be perfect. I understand using some tools to get white balance, remove backscatter perhaps but at what point is it no longer your photo but something else.

I'd rather see images which are imperfect and REAL over anything which has been "improved" by AI. I have even less patience for generative AI and the theft it requires.

I absolutely hate that I have to distrust everything I see on a screen now.

I think it is now more important that ever to sign one's works to "humanify" them. Hence a watermark. This can be forged as well but if there is an authorship question the author can be contacted to verify.

It is only a matter of time before AI starts adding imperfections - a speck of backscatter here and there for example.

Easy to ID species will be less problematic for AI compared to others. I invite people to look at dichotomous keys to see the types of minutia that may be needed for others. Some require looking inside as well as I recall a fish key I used in a class that showed up during an examination that required knowing the peritoneum color.

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This reminds me of a program on BBC some time ago, where they had a guy who specialized in cat photos. He said he would add some random cat hair on the (black) backdrops as a 'signature'. I thought that was interesting -- for amateurs (like me), I just don't care if the AI model makers (or humans, even) download my images and use them for anything, but for people who made a living doing this, it's going to be tough.

As an aside, one interesting thing is that I can input an image into perplexity (running gemini pro for me), and ask it how I could make such an image. And out pops a "how-to" guide. How much more fun, than, you know, asking a real human how they make these brilliant images.😐

[I tried this, using the image on https://www.uwphotographyguide.com/saga-magic-tube-review, and got this response from the Perp:
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/i-want-to-get-this-kind-of-spe-kbbx7T7DQ1Wh2EzmaxuvSQ#0 ]

Another scary thought (😅) is that I could just let the AI make my images, and dive to enjoy the UW scene and experience, eyes wide open, rather than through the viewfinder..

Kind regards,

Ajay

4 hours ago, Ajay said:

Another scary thought (😅) is that I could just let the AI make my images, and dive to enjoy the UW scene and experience, eyes wide open, rather than through the viewfinder..

True, but where’s the sense of accomplishment and satisfaction? Isn’t that a big element of what we do? That’s mine. I did that. 😆