Architeuthis Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) I asked Backscatter and my local dealer (Panocean in Germany) about warranty on the HF-1 strobes: Backscatter gives one year of warranty ("...like our MF-2 strobe and 4300 video lights..." (they did not specify whether flash tube burn-out is included in this warranty), while Panocean gives two years of warranty that includes flash tube burn-out... Edited April 17 by Architeuthis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feathersfinsphotos Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I'm very excited for these and want to purchase a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellhole Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 anyone has update on shipping? 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Architeuthis Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 13 hours ago, hellhole said: anyone has update on shipping? 🙂 I ordered two HF-1 and am waiting too. I also do not have info, whether they will arrive soon... Wolfgang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Emery Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 Hi everyone, I wanted to give everyone an update: We have started shipping the Hybrid Flash today! Not all orders will be filled today, but they will continue in the next week or 2. If someone ordered through one of our authorized dealers, please check in with them, as some dealers are already starting to receive shipments or will be very soon. Here is a link to our support page that includes the instruction manual and informational and how to videos: backscatter.com/HF-1-SUPPORT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Very interesting product Only concern the batteries that are not cheap last 500 cycles only which for Li-Ion is very low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bghazzal Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 The 2x 21700 Lithium Ion Batteries are the same as the one used in Backscatter MW4300 video light, which is a well designed product. Side questiom - will this product mean the end of the Backscatter MW4300 videolight, or will both product lines be maintained (which would be great for those of us on the moving-picture fringe who don't need the strobe function) Also, any info on the CRI of the included 5000 lumen video light? For comparison, the MW4300 light was 6000 K (calibrated) for an output of 4300 lumen, 85° beam angle and a CRI of 71.1, whereas its tighter Macro/Spot mode was 5000 K ( non calibrated) for an output of 1400 lumen and a CRI 0f 70.3 It would be interesting to know if this product's slightly more powerful video light included in the hybrid flash features a jazzed-up led module. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellhole Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) 9 hours ago, James Emery said: Hi everyone, I wanted to give everyone an update: We have started shipping the Hybrid Flash today! Not all orders will be filled today, but they will continue in the next week or 2. If someone ordered through one of our authorized dealers, please check in with them, as some dealers are already starting to receive shipments or will be very soon. Here is a link to our support page that includes the instruction manual and informational and how to videos: backscatter.com/HF-1-SUPPORT Edited June 1 by hellhole Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Architeuthis Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 6 hours ago, Interceptor121 said: Very interesting product Only concern the batteries that are not cheap last 500 cycles only which for Li-Ion is very low Would be nice to have more cycles, but for comparison: Eneloop AA white have 2100 cycles Eneloop AA black have 500 cycles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 4 hours ago, Architeuthis said: Would be nice to have more cycles, but for comparison: Eneloop AA white have 2100 cycles Eneloop AA black have 500 cycles One set of eneloop pro £18.5 one set of nitecore £57 ratio 1:3 those batteries are rated 20A that’s a lot of current to recharge and no doubt this strobe will charge faster than others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Couple of other considerations the batteries weight 71 grams so two is 140 grams the strobe only weight is 1 kg compared to 630 of sea and sea and 735 of retra pro max pretty sure the additional weight is due to the large capacitor this strobe must use to hold the GN40 Question for @James Emery is how much do the diffuser absorb? i think the default should be the 5500 that looks 1/8 cto to me so I would think a small loss and still plenty of power to go i will be waiting for @Architeuthis to get and test its unit but this is really promising if you are happy to deal with 1.15 kg on land and more importantly 230 grams negative in water which is unusual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) Some specification of this strobe are rather creative it defines default power at -1 therefore the strobe is firing at 1/2 the dial 1/4 is actually 1/8 of the capacitor so the 10 shots in burst simply means the strobe keeps shooting until the capacitor is depleted this is more a way to shoot right away than else the interesting part of this strobe is the power it has and to a certain extent the fact it has video lights on it however I cannot see how 5000 lumens are going to be that useful they could have omitted and saved some cost/weight probably minimal Edited June 1 by Interceptor121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turandot Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) On 6/1/2024 at 3:25 PM, Interceptor121 said: I cannot see how 5000 lumens are going to be that useful they could have omitted and saved some cost/weight probably minimal The good thing about this flash is that it has video lights. Is 5000 lumens not enough for underwater video? It may be, but less is nothing. Edited June 4 by turandot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turandot Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) On 6/1/2024 at 3:52 AM, bghazzal said: Side questiom - will this product mean the end of the Backscatter MW4300 videolight, or will both product lines be maintained (which would be great for those of us on the moving-picture fringe who don't need the strobe function) I don't think the Backscatter MW4300 videolight model will reach its end of life, the most logical thing is that they release an upgrade of the videolight to 5000 or 7000 lumens with the same price and weight as the current model. Will we have any news in the near future Backscatter? Edited June 4 by turandot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellhole Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 When will the sony circuits be out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Mustard Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 What flash synch cords do these take? Trying to find some that fit. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 1 hour ago, Alex_Mustard said: What flash synch cords do these take? Trying to find some that fit. Alex They sell a "universal" fiber optic cable as compatible with the strobe, which does come with support for Inon, Nauticam & Sea & Sea Connectors, so it is not clear which one is for this strobe. Based on the Videos I would guess (!) it is the small Sea&Sea style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Mustard Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 I am ordering some Universal cables. Fortunately our local dealer is on my workshops - so he can bring them to Egypt (excellent customer service)! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreiFish Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 2 hours ago, Alex_Mustard said: I am ordering some Universal cables. Fortunately our local dealer is on my workshops - so he can bring them to Egypt (excellent customer service)! Looking forward to see some real images taken by a master with these strobes, @Alex_Mustard -- and of course, your thorough review if you end up making one. Your contributions to the community carry a lot of weight and I'm sure have helped countless photographers in improving their gear (and more importantly skills :D) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Hicks Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 (edited) I will be shooting with my new HF-1 strobes today in Puget Sound. I am using the same (home made, 3d printed rubber) S&S style connectors that fit the MF-2, Inon 330, etc. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6134211 Edited June 15 by Dave_Hicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedonist222 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 On 6/1/2024 at 5:52 AM, bghazzal said: Also, any info on the CRI of the included 5000 lumen video light? Does CRI matter for the strobe output? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Rudin Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 14 minutes ago, hedonist222 said: Does CRI matter for the strobe output? CRI, Color Rendering Index is an industry standard 0-100 scale with 100 being the top rating. It has nothing to do with the strobe output. The flash tubes are separate from the video lights. Some of the small yellow circles are the video lights. Edited June 17 by Phil Rudin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedonist222 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 3 hours ago, Phil Rudin said: CRI, Color Rendering Index is an industry standard 0-100 scale with 100 being the top rating. It has nothing to do with the strobe output. The flash tubes are separate from the video lights. Some of the small yellow circles are the video lights. Hi Phil, I'd asked if CRI applies to strobes as well. Are all strobes equal from a CRI perspective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Rudin Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Not apples to apples, strobe lighting is measured in degrees of kelvin and more subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreiFish Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, hedonist222 said: Hi Phil, I'd asked if CRI applies to strobes as well. Are all strobes equal from a CRI perspective? The whole reason for CRI measurements is that the LEDs used in video lights don't produce the same full spectrum of colors found in halogen bulbs or sunlight. So the higher the CRI, the more 'natural' the light appears. LEDs have historically been very bright in some parts of the spectrum, but produced very little in other parts, like the reds. Strobes with their zenon tubes don't have this issue. All zenon strobes are essentially CRI 100. That's my understanding at least. Happy to be corrected and learn something new. Edited June 17 by DreiFish 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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