A small full frame 61MP

travel dream with leaf shutter:

https://youtu.be/8-wwnIp7tLs

5100 USD or 4900€

No, thanks 😊

Wow 😮

Raise!

And you can change lens

Or a fixed lens camera

This is a real challenge for Compact Categories in contests. Compact Categories were started to enable those with lesser cameras to show what could be achieved without spending the big bucks. In recent years some Compact Category winners have been rightly criticised for using super expensive lenses, that take the system cost way above that of most SLRs or FF mirrorless. Now we have a compact that costs more than most of those cameras too...

I am sure that this camera is not for me. Besides this, this camera has a fixed 35mm lens. I am not sure whether wet lenses exist to make the camera useful for UW, 35mm alone is not really phantastic (if no wetlenses fit, I doubt that someone will ever make a housing)...

A Sony A7cR e.g. has the same sensor, is much cheaper, has similar size&weight and, with the 28-60mm lens, goes very well with different wet lenses the way just as compact cameras are normally used (in addition, all other lens/domeport combinations would work as well as this is a real interchangeable lens camera)...

1 hour ago, Alex_Mustard said:

Compact Category winners have been rightly criticised for using super expensive lenses, that take the system cost way above that of most SLRs or FF mirrorless. Now we have a compact that costs more than most of those cameras too...

Let me guess, it's repeated winners who mounted EMWLs on a Sony RX100 series camera. 😅

@Davide DB there is also a tradition for expensive compact cameras by Leica
https://leica-camera.com/en-GB/photography/cameras/compact-cameras

But I guess this new Sony beast is much more performant.
The 35mm fixed focal length is actually not that bad, I can imagine that some uw optics will work fine with it.
24cm MFD is not that bad. In Macro-Mode it will focus between 14 and 29 cm.

Will stick with my RX100IV.

13 minutes ago, Adventurer said:

Let me guess, it's repeated winners who mounted EMWLs on a Sony RX100 series camera. 😅

@Davide DB there is also a tradition for expensive compact cameras by Leica
https://leica-camera.com/en-GB/photography/cameras/compact-cameras

But I guess this new Sony beast is much more performant.
The 35mm fixed focal length is actually not that bad, I can imagine that some uw optics will work fine with it.
24cm MFD is not that bad. In Macro-Mode it will focus between 14 and 29 cm.

Yes, of course, we can do many crazy things. And certainly, this camera steps into Leica territory in terms of price.

The point is, I don't see what advantage it could possibly have underwater, other than being a pure exercise in style for its own sake and a waste of money. As @Architeuthis wrote, an A7Cr is the solution worth spending money on.

I love compacts, and I might consider this one if it were half the price. Also, I’d prefer a 28mm fixed.

2 hours ago, Adventurer said:


Let me guess, it's repeated winners who mounted EMWLs on a Sony RX100 series camera. 😅

2 hours ago, Adventurer said:

The failing is not the entrants or winners, but I fear that Compact Contest Categories are not really achieving the purpose they set out to. Compacts are increasingly niche and that niche has also become incredibly wide.

That really is not compact camera. It is a fixed lens camera much like old film range finder types. It needs to have a short range 24-75mm zoom lens if fixed. None of it matters as there will likely not be a housing for it and combined with a housing it is too much money. Compact at least to me implies a sub M4:3 sensor, like the RX or G series or the old Canon S series. Not just the external size.

I guess there might be others but right now the only three compact sensor cameras that UW housings are available for are the OM TG, Canon G and Sony RX?

How much is the lens hood?

Ooooo, just read the lens hood is $199.99. That has to be top value, right? It’s black, it’s tough, it looks cool. That’s $199.99 right there. I may order one. Forget the camera.

6 hours ago, Davide DB said:

The point is, I don't see what advantage it could possibly have underwater,

Such a camera has a leaf or iris shutter and therefore has no limitation on X-sync speed.