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Nauticam discontinues N85 to N120 Metabones adapter

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Part Number 36064 is used to connect Tokina 10-17 and Canon 8-15 to MFT cameras providing a unique fisheye zoom to MFT user

This has been discontinued

https://interceptor121.com/2019/11/02/fisheye-zoom-for-micro-four-thirds/

I have one for sale see classified

I am thinking I will be upping the price now!

Also avaialble zoom gear for 8-15 and custom adapter to use with metabones smart adapter

 

From where do you have this info? Maybe the demand was not there??

In case this is true this would really be a pity...☹️

 

I found the Canon 8-15mm (with 1x adapter and NA140 dome) and the Tokina 10-17mm (with both 1x and 0.71x adapter using the Zen DP100) extremely useful and well performing combinations for the MFT system. I really miss these angles of view now with my FF system...

I had two and one is sold. The other one is still in use by Lisi who uses now the EM1II...

 

Wolfgang

10 hours ago, Interceptor121 said:

I am thinking I will be upping the price now!

Also avaialble zoom gear for 8-15 and custom adapter to use with metabones smart adapter

 

I had a look at that ad as I'm thinking of going that way eventually and your asking price is already more than the price of a new one in Australia by $120, looks like the asking prices for Nauticam gear in the UK are particularly steep!

14 hours ago, Architeuthis said:

From where do you have this info? Maybe the demand was not there??

In case this is true this would really be a pity...☹️

 

I found the Canon 8-15mm (with 1x adapter and NA140 dome) and the Tokina 10-17mm (with both 1x and 0.71x adapter using the Zen DP100) extremely useful and well performing combinations for the MFT system. I really miss these angles of view now with my FF system...

I had two and one is sold. The other one is still in use by Lisi who uses now the EM1II...

 

Wolfgang

Nauticam importer here. The part is no longer listed. 

9 hours ago, Chris Ross said:

I had a look at that ad as I'm thinking of going that way eventually and your asking price is already more than the price of a new one in Australia by $120, looks like the asking prices for Nauticam gear in the UK are particularly steep!

 

When you are considering this, also consider the Tokina 10-17mm...

With MFT I was mostly using Canon 8-15mm with 1x adapter and NA140 (this gives very similar AOVs as the new Nauticam FCP on FF at excellent IQ).

As I continue do use the Canon 8-15mm and NA140 now with FF, Lisi is using the Tokina 10-17mm with Zen DP100 and both 1x and 0.71x adapters. This does not only give AOVs like the new FCP on FF (0.71x), but in addition one has the ability to switch to the 1x adapter and have AOVs very similar to WACP/WWL. This is incredible flexibility in a very small package. In case I would be still with MFT, this would be my only WA equipment, almost no need for anything else. Just for splits a bigger dome would be, of course, much better (it is possible to do splits with the DP100)...

=> I know, the Tokina 10-17mm is a lousy lens over the water. The UW performance is, however, almost a miracle - I am not able to tell a difference in IQ between photos made with Canon 8-15mm or Tokina 10-17mm (and IQ with the Canon is excellent)...

 

Wolfgang

Edited by Architeuthis

P.S.: I read on DPReview that the Metabones MFT/Canon adapters do not fit perfectly on the new OM-1 camera. Some abrasion on the adapters is required befpre they fit. I do not know whether it is true, but one should check this out, when thinking about OM-1...

Edited by Architeuthis

9 minutes ago, Architeuthis said:

I know, the Tokina 10-17mm is a lousy lens over the water. The UW performance is, however, almost a miracle

I agree with you, Wolfgang. The Tokina is amazing underwater - certainly with the DX sensor cameras that I have used. I can't say I liked it all with an FF Nikon D800. Horrible!

The only slight hesitation with the lens is the build quality. Over maybe 15 years I've had two of them and they have both had the same issue - the zoom ring detaches. This is user repairable with some tape but it is a bit of a shock first time around. I know too others have had the same issue and it's something to watch out for.

But IQ on sub-FF? Superb.

 

1 hour ago, Architeuthis said:

P.S.: I read on DPReview that the Metabones MFT/Canon adapters do not fit perfectly on the new OM-1 camera. Some abrasion on the adapters is required befpre they fit. I do not know whether it is true, but one should check this out, when thinking about OM-1...

I'm aware of that issue, I have a Metabones adapter already and it has already been ground down which allows me to attach it to the camera. 5 minutes with a dremel style tool and touch is up with a black permanent marker.

  • 3 weeks later...

Interesting the 36064 is no longer listed on the Nauticam site.  It is still shown on the Oz agent's site (Scubapix) at AUD 654 inc GST.

I have one which I will be selling soon, at a sensible price. I used it with Sony APS-C lenses, going 'off piste' from the Nauticam port chart.

It will be advertised on the correct page...! (probably along with heaps of other stuff inc Canon 8-15, Metabones V etc etc)

8 hours ago, dentrock said:

Interesting the 36064 is no longer listed on the Nauticam site.  It is still shown on the Oz agent's site (Scubapix) at AUD 654 inc GST.

I have one which I will be selling soon, at a sensible price. I used it with Sony APS-C lenses, going 'off piste' from the Nauticam port chart.

It will be advertised on the correct page...! (probably along with heaps of other stuff inc Canon 8-15, Metabones V etc etc)

Stock clearout

  • 1 year later...

If anyone has one of these I would like to purchase it. I did talk to Nauticam and they will make me one MOD (manufacturing on demand) at a 30% price increase, which is painful given how expensive their gear already is.

37 minutes ago, Whiskeyjack said:

If anyone has one of these I would like to purchase it. I did talk to Nauticam and they will make me one MOD (manufacturing on demand) at a 30% price increase, which is painful given how expensive their gear already is.

Depending on what you want to use it with the 41.7 or 47mm or even the 55mm N85-N120 may work with different extension rings than those used with the 34.7mm adapter, the zoom knob may not line up with the Nauticam zoom gear but you can get around this with a printed gear. I'm using a custom printed gear in conjunction with the housing zoom control with the Canon 8-15 on the smart adapter with the 34.7 and 35mm extension. The 47mm plus 20mm ring is 2mm less extension and I expect would work.

14 hours ago, Chris Ross said:

Depending on what you want to use it with the 41.7 or 47mm or even the 55mm N85-N120 may work with different extension rings than those used with the 34.7mm adapter, the zoom knob may not line up with the Nauticam zoom gear but you can get around this with a printed gear. I'm using a custom printed gear in conjunction with the housing zoom control with the Canon 8-15 on the smart adapter with the 34.7 and 35mm extension. The 47mm plus 20mm ring is 2mm less extension and I expect would work.

I am also planning to use it with the Canon 8-15. I found a shop in Australia that may have one in stock, if that isn't feasible I'll look into other combinations, though I'm hesitant to purchase without confirmation from Nauticam it would work or a personal anecdote.

9 hours ago, Whiskeyjack said:

I am also planning to use it with the Canon 8-15. I found a shop in Australia that may have one in stock, if that isn't feasible I'll look into other combinations, though I'm hesitant to purchase without confirmation from Nauticam it would work or a personal anecdote.

I can understand this however extension is extension and a change of 2mm in the amount of extension will have minimal impact. Assuming you are using it with the OM-1, I can confirm I'm using it with a N85-N120 + 35mm extension, total extension is 69.7mm. If you got the 47mm N85-N120 you would have 47 +20 = 67mm extension, so 2.7mm less than the tried and tested system. Having the lens 2.7mm further forward will hav eminimum impact on image quality .

You could use the 60mm adapter (no zoom knob) with the Nauticam N120 10mm extension for 70mm total, only 0.3mm more. this is so close as to make no difference at all if anything very very slight vignetting.

I can confirm that the 3D printed zoom gear I use with the housing zoom knob works perfectly and is a superior solution to using the zoom knob on the adapter. Here is the info:

be aware that you need to grind some metal from the Metabones smart adapter to use it with the OM-1.

You could of course ask Nauticam about it.

13 hours ago, Chris Ross said:

I can understand this however extension is extension and a change of 2mm in the amount of extension will have minimal impact. Assuming you are using it with the OM-1, I can confirm I'm using it with a N85-N120 + 35mm extension, total extension is 69.7mm. If you got the 47mm N85-N120 you would have 47 +20 = 67mm extension, so 2.7mm less than the tried and tested system. Having the lens 2.7mm further forward will hav eminimum impact on image quality .

You could use the 60mm adapter (no zoom knob) with the Nauticam N120 10mm extension for 70mm total, only 0.3mm more. this is so close as to make no difference at all if anything very very slight vignetting.

I can confirm that the 3D printed zoom gear I use with the housing zoom knob works perfectly and is a superior solution to using the zoom knob on the adapter. Here is the info:

be aware that you need to grind some metal from the Metabones smart adapter to use it with the OM-1.

You could of course ask Nauticam about it.

Hi Chris, this is super useful. To confirm, are you using the Metabones MB_EF-m43-BT2 adapter? This is the one I currently own, but the metabones people told me it won't work with the OM-1 and I need to buy the newer version, MB_EF-m43-BT4, instead. If there's some way to make the one I have work that saves me $400...

Nauticam also confirmed that ~2mm difference shouldn't really make a difference, which I guess just leaves me needing a custom zoom knob. I have no experience designing 3d printed objects so I'll have to see what my options are there I suppose.

Oh wow I just realized your custom zoom gear uses the housing knob and so eliminates the need for the knob on the adapter at all. That is much better as it lets me use whatever is the closest in length to the original setup.

I

1 hour ago, Whiskeyjack said:

Hi Chris, this is super useful. To confirm, are you using the Metabones MB_EF-m43-BT2 adapter? This is the one I currently own, but the metabones people told me it won't work with the OM-1 and I need to buy the newer version, MB_EF-m43-BT4, instead. If there's some way to make the one I have work that saves me $400...

Nauticam also confirmed that ~2mm difference shouldn't really make a difference, which I guess just leaves me needing a custom zoom knob. I have no experience designing 3d printed objects so I'll have to see what my options are there I suppose.

I really not sure what version I have, it's not a Mark II, I recall I downgraded the firmware to an older version as I initially had some issue running a big Canon tele lens. But it works perfectly well now. I ground down the adapter a bit, you can see it on the first photo in my post linked above to allow it mount on the OM-1, the viewfinder section on the OM-1 projects forward preventing it from mounting. Maybe that's what they man by being not compatible. I bought the adapter second hand. I do see they have the latest version on sale on their website for $US399 today.

The STL file is linked in that post to print the gear.

Based on what he told me it sounds like that's probably what he means as he mentions physical interference between the adapter and the viewfinder:

The MB_EF-m43-BT2 does not fit to the OM System OM-1 due to the physical interference between the adapter and camera body(viewfinder).

I already had to grind my adapter a bit as well for it to work with the Isotta housing so that's not an issue if I need to grind more.

Considering the current/old adapter does not fit on the OM-1, and there is no longer production of the EM-1, perhaps the adapter is discontinued pending release of a new version that does fit? I have no idea if there is sufficient demand.

On the other hand, the Canon 8-15 is also discontinued, so perhaps the whole concept is pretty much at a dead end from nauticam's perspective.

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