NEW - Backscatter Hybrid Flash

[Dave_Hicks]

3 hours ago, DiverDawn said:

Friends tried the new hybrid flashes out at the Digital Shootout.  The photos were pretty and they raved about the soft, even lighting.  They ordered them right away.  I’m more hesitant as the only flash I’ve any experience with is the MF2.  The only complaint I’ve heard so far has been expressed here; the dials can be hard to operate with heavy gloves in cold water.  The 3D printed dial cover is a great work around.   

 

My 3D print design for the HF-1 Power Knob slip over cover:

https://makerworld.com/models/610783

 

[johnvila]

The joys of living in "paradise" - quotation to send two knob to Vanuatu - USD 236!!!!! Any members in Australia with 3D printer?

 

Cheers

 

John

[Dave_Hicks]

3 hours ago, johnvila said:

The joys of living in "paradise" - quotation to send two knob to Vanuatu - USD 236!!!!! Any members in Australia with 3D printer?

 

Cheers

 

John

See if there is a local "maker space" at your community center, library, high school or university. The plans are available online and anyone can print them for you.

[devinphotographer]

3 hours ago, johnvila said:

The joys of living in "paradise" - quotation to send two knob to Vanuatu - USD 236!!!!! Any members in Australia with 3D printer?

 

Cheers

 

John

WHOA! pricey

[johnvila]

On 9/4/2024 at 2:01 PM, Dave_Hicks said:

See if there is a local "maker space" at your community center, library, high school or university. The plans are available online and anyone can print them for you.

Dave - I love your optimism ----------- great idea though!

[hellhole]

On 9/1/2024 at 11:39 AM, Dave_Hicks said:

My 3D print design for the HF-1 Power Knob slip over cover:

https://makerworld.com/models/610783

 

 

tried printing it... trying to print multiple knob in a single print... didnt went well.... when it get to the top part... prints just flying off the print bed.. heheh... my print bed too hot?  or the base it too thin that it can't 'hold' on to the bed... i will try again... good stuff

[Dave_Hicks]

7 hours ago, hellhole said:

 

tried printing it... trying to print multiple knob in a single print... didnt went well.... when it get to the top part... prints just flying off the print bed.. heheh... my print bed too hot?  or the base it too thin that it can't 'hold' on to the bed... i will try again... good stuff

Clean your bed with dawn soap and a scrub pad. Add a brim to the print for better adhesion. I didn't need to, but it may help. 

[Dave_Hicks]

7 hours ago, hellhole said:

 

tried printing it... trying to print multiple knob in a single print... didnt went well.... when it get to the top part... prints just flying off the print bed.. heheh... my print bed too hot?  or the base it too thin that it can't 'hold' on to the bed... i will try again... good stuff

Clean your bed with dawn soap and a scrub pad. Add a brim to the print for better adhesion. I didn't need to, but it may help. 

[Loïc35]

Hybrid flash Backscatter test by Nicolas Remy

 

https://www.divephotoguide.com/underwater-photography-special-features/article/review-backscatter-hybrid-flash-hf-1/

[ChipBPhoto]

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Edited September 8 by ChipBPhoto

[Architeuthis]

Nicolas Remy has updated and completed his review of HF-1 (many more dives, now also on use of diffusers): https://theunderwaterclub.com/blog/backscatter-hybrid-flash-final-review/?utm_source=scubaboard.com&utm_medium=community&utm_campaign=scubaboard-Hybrid-Flash-final-review

 

Edited September 16 by Architeuthis

[Susa]

Hi, does anybody knows when the backscatter Sony trigger will be available? 

[ChipBPhoto]

1 hour ago, Susa said:

Hi, does anybody knows when the backscatter Sony trigger will be available? 

I saw a response from Backscatter simply saying coming soon, but no definitive release date.

[Susa]

Does anybody use a Sony A7r5 with this flash and TTL (in Isotta), please which trigger are you using? And is it possible to do HSS?

 

I got the information in Germany from a dealer, that UWtechnics and Turtle trigger are not working with A7R5 in TTL mode with this flash. 

Edited October 2 by Susa

[CaolIla]

33 minutes ago, Susa said:

Does anybody use a Sony A7r5 with this flash and TTL (in Isotta), please which trigger are you using? And is it possible to do HSS?

I believe that the Isotta trigger is not TTL.  I have a Canon R5 Isotta and he is only manual. It's in the documentation.

Hope this help

[Chris Ross]

59 minutes ago, Susa said:

Does anybody use a Sony A7r5 with this flash and TTL (in Isotta), please which trigger are you using? And is it possible to do HSS?

The two main suppliers of TTL triggers are UWT and Turtle, the trigger needs to be made to be compatible with the camera body and it needs to be able to communicate properly with the chosen flash.  Once this is done it needs to be adapted to the housing the considerations there are fitting the LEDs to trigger ports of the housing and mounting the trigger.  Basically if the triggers are working for your camera body/flash combination the only additional criteria is if the supplier has engineered a good fit to install the trigger and the LEDs. 

 

The triggers in question have been widely discussed in the forum I believe from both of these suppliers for Sony, getting it working properly with the Backscatter flash will take time for the vendors to develop their protocols to work with the new flash.

 

I would message the vendors where they are with supporting the new flash, both Pavel from UWT and Balage from Turtle are on the forum so you could PM them to ask.

[Susa]

17 minutes ago, Chris Ross said:

The two main suppliers of TTL triggers are UWT and Turtle, the trigger needs to be made to be compatible with the camera body and it needs to be able to communicate properly with the chosen flash.  Once this is done it needs to be adapted to the housing the considerations there are fitting the LEDs to trigger ports of the housing and mounting the trigger.  Basically if the triggers are working for your camera body/flash combination the only additional criteria is if the supplier has engineered a good fit to install the trigger and the LEDs. 

 

The triggers in question have been widely discussed in the forum I believe from both of these suppliers for Sony, getting it working properly with the Backscatter flash will take time for the vendors to develop their protocols to work with the new flash.

 

I would message the vendors where they are with supporting the new flash, both Pavel from UWT and Balage from Turtle are on the forum so you could PM them to ask.

Thanks for your explanations, I will try to find it in the chats, but I got the answer (from UWtechnics and Turtle over PanOceanPhoto in Germany per mail), that the trigger are not working with TTL and HSS until now. Both triggers can fit in the  housing and work with some flashes also with the camera. So it seems  I have to wait 🙂  ...

[hellhole]

my experience with r4 with the uwtech trigger and hydrid flash is as such

1. use retra pro setting on uwtech trigger

2. turn on wireless flash to get rid of pre flash ( as stated in the menu from uwtech fr sony camera)

3. i can't really tell if TTL is working with the hydrid flash in M mode... looks okay.  but we can pew pew pew multiple shot at 1/250 ( have not tried 1/320)

4. hss set on hydrid flash and 1/500 ( i think i tried to 1/8000) is able to work.  but its 1 shot 1 kill.. no pew pew pew  🙂

 

 

 

[humu9679]

14 hours ago, hellhole said:

  but its 1 shot 1 kill.. no pew pew pew  🙂

 

 

I would very much enjoy "pew pew pew" but my flash (Inon Z240) is old and slow. 🙂

[gremlin]

Any further news on the Sony trigger, it's now quite close to end of the year...

[MatthewSullivan]

2 hours ago, gremlin said:

Any further news on the Sony trigger, it's now quite close to end of the year...

I should have one in hand in the next few days and will begin testing it

[ChipBPhoto]

2 hours ago, MatthewSullivan said:

I should have one in hand in the next few days and will begin testing it

Look forward to hearing your thoughts.